I have a weakness for unique foreign treats. I wouldn’t have gotten grape except for the call-out that it’s superior to what we get, so congratulations on making me buy one of each.
/giphy sincere-frightening-fish
/image sincere-frightening-fish
I like gummy candy and I’ve liked Japanese candy I’ve tried, so what the heck. In for both flavors.
What did I buy again?
My wife likes this stuff, but if I ask her she’ll say “No,” so I just bought 5 boxes… and won’t tell her, just leave 'em out one box at a time.
Wish me luck.
@yakkoTDI You’re right! Sadly, I can’t carry a tune in a bucket & can barely get through Chopsticks, but if you decide to form a band & use it, just be sure to mention me in the liner notes of your first album!
@mediocrebot show me a ragged perfunctory theory with someone who vaguely looks like Melissa Rauch and has blue eyes with a strong tint and can’t spell or do even basic math
Bought a package of each. I hope the grape flavor is that super artificial tasting grape flavoring. Why, you might ask? Well, you know how scents and flavors can strongly evoke associated memories? The aroma or taste of artificial grape flavoring instantly transports me back to 1973. I was a junior in high school, and I had a very pretty girlfriend who was a senior. And she always wore GRAPE lip gloss! No strong memories associated with lemon… I just like lemon!
I really wasn’t going to bother with these since I’m still working on the gummy bears, but after reading the comments and reviews, it got my curious. In for one of each.
@ircon96@ItalianScallion I’m very amused by the fact that “real” Alfredo isn’t about the sauce (which was reportedly just butter) but the performance of the serving celebration.
@ircon96@werehatrack Here’s a link to a good article about Alfredo and his famous dish, written by his granddaughter. It’s from Gambero Rosso which is quite an authoritative source from Italy.
If you really like that good grape flavor, may I suggest also looking into the Japanese brand Kasugai, they make gummies in muscat grape flavor that are insane
So [from an Amazon review] the ingredients in the grape flavored candy are:
"The actual ingredients are not listed on the commercial packaging (Box).
So here they are from the individual packs : SUGAR, GLUCOSE SYRUP, WATER, CONCENTRATED GRAPE JUICE, GELATIN, CITRIC ACID, DEXTRIN, SORBITOL, CALCIUM CARBONATE, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS, TRISODIUM CITRATE, PECTIN, ASCORBIC ACID, VEGETABLE JUICE (COLOR), MONO-AND DI-GLYCERIDES, MANNITOL."
@PhysAssist “…naturally juicy and authentic taste.” The other day I saw actual lemons and grapes at a farmers market (although they spelled it “graps”).
Sing it with me: “Eight teaspoons of sugar helps the CITRIC ACID, DEXTRIN, SORBITOL, CALCIUM CARBONATE, TRISODIUM CITRATE, PECTIN, ASCORBIC ACID, MONO-AND DI-GLYCERIDES, AND MANNITOL go down…”
@johnjac@snapster assuming linear trends, the 10th serving would have 0 calories. If beyond that, the calorie trend continues negative, then at 19 servings, you would net 0 calories overall.
As to sodium, you would hit 100% (actually 2475, but close enough) at the 30th serving.
@johnjac there was this old comedy routine (I don’t think it was Abbott & Costello, but it was in the b&w era) where, to stay competitive with the neighboring donut cart, the main duo would lower the price of their best deals by a penny.
A dozen donuts was 10 cents, but it would go down to 9. A half dozen was 5, but it had to go down to 4. A single would be a penny, but the idiot partner of the duo kept the trend going and marked it down to 0. A wise cop passes by and notes the 0¢ donut. "Oh, then I’ll take a dozen…One at a time!"
The serious remark about this is, in the food packaging industry, ½ can be rounded down. So say you have a serving size so small (like a spray of butter) the label can read it was a 0 calorie 0 fat serving (though somewhere on the label, it has to mention this is not a low calorie food even if the serving size is 0 calorie)
@johnjac@snapster@ybmuG I ASKED AI and this is the answer:
You would have to eat an imaginary number of full servings to reach zero calories and 100% sodium.
Since every full serving has 170 calories, and the sodium DV is only 1%, you’d need 100 full servings (10x the sodium amount) — which adds up to 17,000 calories — to hit 100% sodium.
But to get zero calories, you’d have to eat nothing at all.
I don’t care for gummys at all so makes it easy to resist.
Back when gummy bears first came out they were tolerable, but the fact that every fucking thing is gummy these days, well my tolerance seriously decreased.
Now, give me some 1960s era spice drops (how they were made not ones made that long ago) and … well … I have to seriously ration myself.
Memory unlocked: My mother made ‘spice cakes’, sorta like a fruit cake but made with spice drops not dried fruit and soaked with enough brandy to get us all drunk.
@paulgdeaton They don’t do it by quantity or dollar amount, they do free shipping for memberships (which you can then cancel for the following month if you want.)
@Ignorant@SirLouie Also the reason we got single- serving wrapped Stroopwafels. The legend was they were destined for international airplane flights, many of which were canceled for a few months.
For an unknown reason the Stroopwafels keep coming back though.
@Ignorant Oh. I didn’t realize. I’m happy for the fun stories I have from the Drop, but I’m sad for those who were affected because of it. I appreciate the explanation.
@pmarin At first, my brain imagined a flight attendant servicing a passenger: “Here is your Stroopwafel … and your 10 pound bag of pasta. Can I get you anything else?” LOL
@Ignorant@pmarin@SirLouie Interesting
I have gotten them that way sent by my friends in the Netherlands before they became readily available here in the US. In fact, it was the way he always sent them.
@DrunkCat@ItalianScallion Yes I had a room-mate that did that because it’s what his mother did for him. It’s like, Dude, you’re grown-up, we can deal with pasta length ourselves now!
@DrunkCat@ItalianScallion@pmarin that was so it would fit in the pot before cooking,… I am looking for a long narrow pasta-cooking pot. can’t find one.
Got my sugar noods today and although I liked the grape flavor, they were more sour than I would’ve preferred. Thought that would stop me after the first few strips, but a few minutes later the first bag was empty.
PSA: Don’t leave bags of sugar noods in the front seat of a car parked outside at high noon, unless your plan is to turn them into bags of sweet & sour lemon or grape soup.
@Kyeh I wouldn’t call them big unless you’re a lilliputian. They were more like mini icepacks after being in the freezer and were stuck to the inside of the bag like superglue. The lemon looked like Yaphit after thawing, but still tasted fine, though it could’ve used a sprinkle more of sugar. That might be what I do with the next bags, so much for 170 calories per serving.
@werehatrack I do like the reusable bag idea… But I’m a fat American and have gone through three packages in a day. (One after breakfast, one before lunch, one during lunch… Oh boy.)
I actually do like the tiny bags though. I can throw out my grease towels much more easily. To elaborate:
I go through a lot of snack bags, some resealable; I save them for smelly garbage that I don’t want to linger in my kitchen, but am too lazy to put out in the outdoor trash bin. Stuff like styrofoam that used to hold beef, tuna pouches I don’t want to wash, non-compostable post-consumed waste, and paper towels I cleaned blood or fat or cooking grease (because I want to reduce the grease that goes into my pipes).
Don’t know if my pallette is jacked or what, but the grape is barely edible; strong aftertaste of rubbing alcohol. The lemon seems to be fine. It doesn’t have that artificial grape flavor (which I’m thankful for) but the aftertaste is the weirdest thing. Maybe it is already on its way to being wine?
Specs
Product: 10-Pack: Gummi Fettuccine
Model: 855880007133, 855880007232
Condition: New
What’s Included?
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Monday, Apr 14 - Tuesday, Apr 15
This seems like such a yesterday product.
Oh, wow, this is Japanese, so pretty much almost guaranteed to be good.
@ShotgunX I bought 'em because of your post…
@JohnQ118 @ShotgunX
dammit, these are really good
Finally the return of pasta drop!
Fettuccine, made in Japan, by Bourbon.
faux fettuccini?
i’ll bite
@phendrick Don’t forget to chew.
@phendrick So, is there a Bourbon fettuccine sauce to go with this?
@phendrick Or you could just wash them down with some Pappy Van Winkle…
I have a weakness for unique foreign treats. I wouldn’t have gotten grape except for the call-out that it’s superior to what we get, so congratulations on making me buy one of each.
@djslack I bought 3 Grapes because of YOUR post.
@djslack I bought 4 grapes not because of your post but because I felt like it. Then I returned them all because of your post.
@djslack @phonepole I’m detecting a certain amount of “sour grapes” here.
@djslack @phonepole @werehatrack
@JohnQ118 You know what goes great with these? A timeshare in Boca… whisper at me if you’re interested.
@djslack @phonepole I bought one of each because of your reply.
@ircon96 I bought 4 timeshares in Boca because of your post… wait.
@chaosdreamer
@djslack @ircon96 @JohnQ118 @phonepole @werehatrack
Oh, so you’re the ones that are leaving me with lemons
@pakopako You would prefer razzberries?
@pakopako Damn, you can still buy these! Glad I got in on the ground floor of grape.
This also means I need to keep fighting the temptation of the Kenwood battery banks.
@djslack @pakopako I keep ordering one more to see what the limit is. For science.
/giphy sincere-frightening-fish
/image sincere-frightening-fish
I like gummy candy and I’ve liked Japanese candy I’ve tried, so what the heck. In for both flavors.
@remo28 I bought both flavors because of YOUR post.
What sauce pairs well with this?
@Num1Zero Crème Anglaise
@heartny @Num1Zero Frutti Diavolo
@Num1Zero Teriyaki
@Num1Zero hot sauce
Everything is better with hot sauce
You had me at candy.
/showme graven-angry-crack
@D_a_v_e
I’m avoiding going to sleep… So
/giphy graven-angry-crack
What did I buy again?
My wife likes this stuff, but if I ask her she’ll say “No,” so I just bought 5 boxes… and won’t tell her, just leave 'em out one box at a time.
Wish me luck.
@JohnQ118 Extend the fun and leave out one pouch at a time.
@JohnQ118 @yakkoTDI As they say, it’s better to ask for forgiveness than permission.
Was going to buy 2 but then I realized I still had a coopin.
In for 4.
/giphy whiny-calamitous-range
In for both flavors! And for what its worth, our inventory is not melted/congealed like some Amazon reviews say. I had 'em checked today.
@troy Spoilsport. Now I can’t ask you to send me a carving knife to separate them.
@troy @werehatrack Awww, we’re never gonna have another candy corn fiasco at this rate!
@ircon96 @troy @werehatrack
That sounds like a great band name.
@troy @werehatrack
@yakkoTDI You’re right! Sadly, I can’t carry a tune in a bucket & can barely get through Chopsticks, but if you decide to form a band & use it, just be sure to mention me in the liner notes of your first album!
@ircon96 @troy @werehatrack @yakkoTDI Also a great brand name for the confection.
@troy then it’s not like the ginger packing gummies?
The virtual grandkid adores gummies. The S.O. likes gummies. In for one of each.
dammit
@werehatrack does the virtual grandkid virtually eat the candy???
@TimW The virtual grandkid is real, it’s the relationship that’s virtual.
glad I caught myself and didn’t abbrev “virtual grandkid” down to the initials there. That would have been Wrong.
@werehatrack
TVG?
@tinamarie1974 How funny! You got your wish - sort of?
@Kyeh I saw that @Joest must work miracles
@tinamarie1974 It’s @jouest
@jouest @Kyeh DOH!!!
Sorry @Jouest!!!
Oh hell yeah! One of each.
/giphy huge-ripe-cook
I had to go back and get two more. Sour gummy candy is one of my very favorites. A1C be damned.
/giphy crummy-madly-sushi
@Pony That’s what meds are for!
@Pony The cook doesn’t look huge to me, but maybe that’s because there isn’t a banana for scale.
@ItalianScallion @Pony Also, the bot is probably assuming he’s waiting for his power-up.
@ircon96 @Pony It will be awesome when the bot does power up!
POPSOCKETS! SPA KITS! POLLY POCKETS! AWESOME!
@mediocrebot Yes!!!
/giphy impartial-papery-fruit
@fjp999 https://www.amazon.com/Carmen-Mirandas-Ghost-Haunting-Station/dp/0671698648
/giphy bushy-benign-loris
@TK4TWO1 Just how does Meh know that about Lori?
/giphy mousy-dark-hedgehog
/giphy ragged-perfunctory-theory
@jakeline
/showme a ragged perfunctory theory with Melissa Rauch
@mediocrebot show me a ragged perfunctory theory with someone who vaguely looks like Melissa Rauch and has blue eyes with a strong tint and can’t spell or do even basic math
@mediocrebot Looks more like a young Mary Tyler Moore, 'cept don’t recall her as a blond.
Bought a package of each. I hope the grape flavor is that super artificial tasting grape flavoring. Why, you might ask? Well, you know how scents and flavors can strongly evoke associated memories? The aroma or taste of artificial grape flavoring instantly transports me back to 1973. I was a junior in high school, and I had a very pretty girlfriend who was a senior. And she always wore GRAPE lip gloss! No strong memories associated with lemon… I just like lemon!
Sure, why not. I’m in for 1 grape & 2 lemon.
/showme wacky-babbling-back
In for both These will hit the spot… In a week or so.
/giphy funky-awake-cheddar
/show me blue-furry-sodium
Ugh, I’m done with autocorrect
@DVDBZN I call it auto incorrect.
@DVDBZN @yakkoTDI Me too! Another example of the gr8 minds phenomenon.
I really wasn’t going to bother with these since I’m still working on the gummy bears, but after reading the comments and reviews, it got my curious. In for one of each.
Sugar?
@terrry …Ray Robinson?
@ircon96 @terrry … Ray Leonard?
@terrry Oh, Honey, Honey…
These would make a terrible Alfredo.
@ircon96 They don’t make a good Julio or Juan either.
@yakkoTDI I don’t know about those scrubs, i only have eyes for Alfredo!
@ircon96 This, however, is an excellent Alfredo… with Alfredo.
@ircon96 @ItalianScallion I’m very amused by the fact that “real” Alfredo isn’t about the sauce (which was reportedly just butter) but the performance of the serving celebration.
@ircon96 @werehatrack Here’s a link to a good article about Alfredo and his famous dish, written by his granddaughter. It’s from Gambero Rosso which is quite an authoritative source from Italy.
Ahh crap. It had me until I read sorbitol in the ingredients. Migraine trigger.
@EvilSmoo That sucks. I don’t know what i would do, it’s practically one of my food groups!
Be careful everyone if you have pets. Just a small amount of Sorbitol can be fatal to small dogs.
@kenrose Sorbitol is mostly safe for dogs, it can give them some stomach issues if they eat a decent amount, it’s xylitol that’s toxic for dogs.
/giphy tangy-wayward-potluck
OH MY GOD THEY LADY-AND-THE-TRAMPLED GLEN!!!
@shahnm [reflects on the image] “Look how they massacred my boy”
If you really like that good grape flavor, may I suggest also looking into the Japanese brand Kasugai, they make gummies in muscat grape flavor that are insane
@thechinglish like a graceful lady!
@pakopako hehehehehe epic description
@pakopako @thechinglish Japanglish!
Unusually, I didn’t see anyone comment on the ingredients that are in these.
[Except for @EvilSchmoo commenting re: sorbitol]
So [from an Amazon review] the ingredients in the grape flavored candy are:
"The actual ingredients are not listed on the commercial packaging (Box).
So here they are from the individual packs : SUGAR, GLUCOSE SYRUP, WATER, CONCENTRATED GRAPE JUICE, GELATIN, CITRIC ACID, DEXTRIN, SORBITOL, CALCIUM CARBONATE, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS, TRISODIUM CITRATE, PECTIN, ASCORBIC ACID, VEGETABLE JUICE (COLOR), MONO-AND DI-GLYCERIDES, MANNITOL."
Because inquiring minds want to know…
@PhysAssist
/giphy morose-eternal-panda
@PhysAssist Didn’t look at the pictures, I see.
@PhysAssist “…naturally juicy and authentic taste.” The other day I saw actual lemons and grapes at a farmers market (although they spelled it “graps”).
Sing it with me: “Eight teaspoons of sugar helps the CITRIC ACID, DEXTRIN, SORBITOL, CALCIUM CARBONATE, TRISODIUM CITRATE, PECTIN, ASCORBIC ACID, MONO-AND DI-GLYCERIDES, AND MANNITOL go down…”
@MrNews
Mmmmmm! Glucose syrup.
Would be hilarious if it was made from blood…
Never eat just half a bag. Somehow the 2nd half has less calories than the 1st. Truly ground breaking candy technology.
@johnjac subtract 10 calories from chewing the first half?
@johnjac @snapster and yet somehow the second half has more sodium
@snapster @ybmuG How many servings would I have to eat to get to zero calories and 100% sodium?
@johnjac @snapster assuming linear trends, the 10th serving would have 0 calories. If beyond that, the calorie trend continues negative, then at 19 servings, you would net 0 calories overall.
As to sodium, you would hit 100% (actually 2475, but close enough) at the 30th serving.
@snapster @ybmuG
Hey @meh can you send me enough to test, you know of science?
@johnjac @meh @snapster @ybmuG Same for me, I also science in my spare time.
@johnjac there was this old comedy routine (I don’t think it was Abbott & Costello, but it was in the b&w era) where, to stay competitive with the neighboring donut cart, the main duo would lower the price of their best deals by a penny.
A dozen donuts was 10 cents, but it would go down to 9. A half dozen was 5, but it had to go down to 4. A single would be a penny, but the idiot partner of the duo kept the trend going and marked it down to 0. A wise cop passes by and notes the 0¢ donut. "Oh, then I’ll take a dozen… One at a time!"
The serious remark about this is, in the food packaging industry, ½ can be rounded down. So say you have a serving size so small (like a spray of butter) the label can read it was a 0 calorie 0 fat serving (though somewhere on the label, it has to mention this is not a low calorie food even if the serving size is 0 calorie)
@johnjac @snapster @ybmuG no
@meh @snapster @ybmuG please
for science
@johnjac @snapster @ybmuG I ASKED AI and this is the answer:
You would have to eat an imaginary number of full servings to reach zero calories and 100% sodium.
Since every full serving has 170 calories, and the sodium DV is only 1%, you’d need 100 full servings (10x the sodium amount) — which adds up to 17,000 calories — to hit 100% sodium.
But to get zero calories, you’d have to eat nothing at all.
/giphy discursive-crusty-sound
I don’t care for gummys at all so makes it easy to resist.
Back when gummy bears first came out they were tolerable, but the fact that every fucking thing is gummy these days, well my tolerance seriously decreased.
Now, give me some 1960s era spice drops (how they were made not ones made that long ago) and … well … I have to seriously ration myself.
Memory unlocked: My mother made ‘spice cakes’, sorta like a fruit cake but made with spice drops not dried fruit and soaked with enough brandy to get us all drunk.
@Cerridwyn Spice drops are one of my favorites. I like the cake idea.
/giphy moping-rumbly-crack
You all convinced me to buy grape. But it is sold out. Starting the day with deep sadness.
@ChrisHBelAir same. Regret on missing out.
@ChrisHBelAir @gman1341 If you had started the day at the start of the day you would not be as sad.
@ChrisHBelAir @gman1341 @yakkoTDI I was up early. Bought. Went back to bed.
So are these actually just all the gummy worm rejects that didn’t pass QC inspection?
@macromeh Just approaching the marketing driven “Best Before” date.
Is this hinting at a resurrection of the pasta drop? I’m ready to feed my gluten need!
How many do I have to buy to get free shipping? It’s not that I am cheap… just asking for a friend…
@paulgdeaton They don’t do it by quantity or dollar amount, they do free shipping for memberships (which you can then cancel for the following month if you want.)
@paulgdeaton
PAY $6; get ‘free’ $5.99 shipping.
Lose a penny unless you place another order…
Gummi Fettucine was a character in that Coppola movie that bombed right?
I miss Pasta Drop.
@SirLouie it was a great time, though the delivery drivers might have other thoughts.
@pmarin @SirLouie I don’t miss the reason behind it.
@Kyeh @pmarin What was that? did they buy a warehouse that had pasta in it or something?
@SirLouie Covid lockdowns. Restaurants and suppliers needed to sell off excess product.
@Ignorant @SirLouie Also the reason we got single- serving wrapped Stroopwafels. The legend was they were destined for international airplane flights, many of which were canceled for a few months.
For an unknown reason the Stroopwafels keep coming back though.
@Ignorant Oh. I didn’t realize. I’m happy for the fun stories I have from the Drop, but I’m sad for those who were affected because of it. I appreciate the explanation.
@pmarin At first, my brain imagined a flight attendant servicing a passenger: “Here is your Stroopwafel … and your 10 pound bag of pasta. Can I get you anything else?” LOL
@Ignorant @pmarin @SirLouie Interesting
I have gotten them that way sent by my friends in the Netherlands before they became readily available here in the US. In fact, it was the way he always sent them.
I’m bummed grape is sold out, since that’s right up @puppycat’s alley, but we’ll try lemon.
/giphy candid-antsy-chlorine
@Thumperchick Sorry! I’m partly to blame. I bought 4 grape and 3 lemon
@troy It’s fine. I’ll explain that some mean person on the internet beat us to her favorite flavor.
@Thumperchick @troy I bought 3 grape and 2 lemon.
“AI” users break their pasta before cooking it.
@DrunkCat That’s a real challenge with orzo.
@DrunkCat There’s a special place in Hell’s Kitchen for people who break their pasta before cooking it.
@DrunkCat @ItalianScallion Yes I had a room-mate that did that because it’s what his mother did for him. It’s like, Dude, you’re grown-up, we can deal with pasta length ourselves now!
@DrunkCat @ItalianScallion @pmarin I just use pasta corta like an adult.
@DrunkCat @ItalianScallion @pmarin that was so it would fit in the pot before cooking,… I am looking for a long narrow pasta-cooking pot. can’t find one.
You jerks bought all the Grape! Didn’t stop me from buying the Lemon though
just to clarify, is this 1 10-pack box or 10 10-pack boxes?
cuz it says ‘10-pack Gummi’ - ‘10 for $5’
i mean i don’t want any, but 100 packs for $5 would be great if i did
@Noddy93 one 10-pack box for $5. We would absolutely state 100-for-$5 if we were shipping out 100 packs.
@Noddy93 @troy and each pouch has 11 gummi fettuccini’s making 110… for $5.
I mean… this is what $5 coupons are for, right?
/giphy maladjusted-quirky-cockroach
@capnjb I don’t think I want that.
@pmarin He can tap dance!
@capnjb @pmarin can they sing Howard and Emerson?
@pakopako @pmarin Hello ma baby!
I actually have had this specific product (the grape flavor) from a local play n trade / arcade type store. I really enjoyed it!
Can’t speak on the lemon, but can confirm it is that Japanese grape candy style flavor, and not too overly sour or tart.
Well fuck. Busy all day and I missed the Grape flavor?! Damn it.
Meh, holla atcha boi if you have any extras or cancelations!
Got my sugar noods today and although I liked the grape flavor, they were more sour than I would’ve preferred. Thought that would stop me after the first few strips, but a few minutes later the first bag was empty.
KuoH
PSA: Don’t leave bags of sugar noods in the front seat of a car parked outside at high noon, unless your plan is to turn them into bags of sweet & sour lemon or grape soup.
KuoH
@kuoh So did you put them in the fridge and create big gummy pillows the size of the bags?
@Kyeh I wouldn’t call them big unless you’re a lilliputian. They were more like mini icepacks after being in the freezer and were stuck to the inside of the bag like superglue. The lemon looked like Yaphit after thawing, but still tasted fine, though it could’ve used a sprinkle more of sugar. That might be what I do with the next bags, so much for 170 calories per serving.
KuoH
@kuoh Hah! Well, bigger than the strips, I meant. I’d like to see a picture of one of the clumps.
Every bag I have opened has turned out to be empty when I picked it up the second time.
I have no idea how that is happening.
@werehatrack I do like the reusable bag idea… But I’m a fat American and have gone through three packages in a day. (One after breakfast, one before lunch, one during lunch… Oh boy.)
I actually do like the tiny bags though. I can throw out my grease towels much more easily. To elaborate:
I go through a lot of snack bags, some resealable; I save them for smelly garbage that I don’t want to linger in my kitchen, but am too lazy to put out in the outdoor trash bin. Stuff like styrofoam that used to hold beef, tuna pouches I don’t want to wash, non-compostable post-consumed waste, and paper towels I cleaned blood or fat or cooking grease (because I want to reduce the grease that goes into my pipes).
Just got them! It’s true: they’re very bouncy. Grape is definitely more sour than my American palette was prepared for, but it was good.
The lemon is great!
Don’t know if my pallette is jacked or what, but the grape is barely edible; strong aftertaste of rubbing alcohol. The lemon seems to be fine. It doesn’t have that artificial grape flavor (which I’m thankful for) but the aftertaste is the weirdest thing. Maybe it is already on its way to being wine?