The cups’ double-wall vacuum insulation keeps your drinks cold for hours; alleviating the need to constantly refill so you can relax and enjoy your beverage without worry.
Our standard tumbler lid is versatile, featuring two drinking options; a sip spout and a reusable straw option.
We’ve tested this lid thoroughly and it passes the “shake” test and is leak-resistant in most conditions.
Complete with a sturdy and sleek side handle for easy carrying, this tumbler is everything you’ve ever wanted in a cup.
Hydration has never looked so good!
Easy to hold, fits into most cup holders
Double-wall vacuum insulation safeguards to sustain optimal drink temperature
Cold 12 hours and Hot 6 hours
Convenient carry size fits easily inside most bags, perfect for coffee
@shahnm
To mostly answer my own question, this is buried somewhere in the TruFlask website:
“With a stainless steel tumbler, you’re going to want to avoid the dishwasher and hand-wash your tumbler to keep it in the best condition. You can put your lids and straws in the dishwasher, however, for a deep clean.”
With that said, I wonder if I’d be ok dishwashering this if I was ok with it being in not-the-best condition… How far do you think we’d be falling from best condition, Meh?
@shahnm I dishwasher all of yeti, rtic, and noname stainless tumblers. They’re probably extra faded, and the bottom cap fell off of a yeti, but there still perfectly functional. My son’s fancy Stanley, I hand wash, because the other ten-year-olds only respect pristine Stanleys. N41
@shahnm I something-searched this topic and it seems like the risk is that the seal which uh, seals the vacuum insulation may be compromised by the aggressive(?) environment which is an automatic dishwasher. And in addition to losing the insulated property, water can get in there and have a hard time getting out and it may turn yucky.
@Commonwealth109@shahnm I have a new dishwasher that circulates warm air for a long time, and that is probably fine. The “classic” dishwashers with what is basically an oven heater element right under your dishes… then probably NO.
This observation may not be entirely relevant since these may have been manufactured using better materials and techniques, but the only two such mugs we’ve had didn’t retain their vacuum for very long. The post-failure examination found cracking where the mounting tabs for the handles were spot-welded to the outer shell. By comparison, we’ve had just one similar loss of insulating capability in the thirteen mugs whose handles employ a plastic band that encircles the mug. That one failed when the lead seal in the evacuation port at the bottom of the main body’s outer shell became damaged. (If you’ve wondered why it looks like there’s a pressed-on shell over the bottom of these mugs, it’s because that shell protects the evac port from being dented or otherwise damaged.)
Also, all of ours continue to work just fine despite being regularly run through a dishwasher, although a small percentage has taken some damage to the outer decorative coating.
@werehatrack I will note that we never use the “heat dry” misfeature on our dishwasher. There are way too many things that get warped by the extra heat.
@DrunkCat@ItalianScallion@yakkoTDI pronouns are so obsolete now. That’s why refuse to study further in most European languages. Why is a fork a different gender than a knife? And I forget what the table and plate are. As a logical person I could just never accept the arbitrary (but ancient) story behind that.
th@f00l large box in old dining room-office-storage room. Deciding what to do with them. A few showed up in boxes the last few weeks and I don’t remember ordering them. Do you think I have a problem?
I still prefer the “non-handle” style as the screw-on-top and flip-up-lid ones are more leak resistant. Plus since I use them frequently while mowing, dust is less of an issue. When I travel I can clip it to my travel bag or backpack more easily as well.
Meh offering the equivalent of Walmart brand jeans Sure they’ll function perfectly identical to the fancy ones and the logo will be the only difference. But your tweens and teens must deal with the social stigmas of not having the name brand, their friends and frenemies will notice.
So if this is for you, millennial or Gen X reader, go get 'em. Zoomer at college: Everyone is starting to not give a f*ck about other people’s name brands, except with booze. Go for these.
@Chefmongoose Twenty years ago, my daughter proudly became a fashionista at her high school by never wearing matching socks and often not wearing matching shoes. I was in awe of her ability to get away with just about anything in the attire area. Also, she actually rode her bike to school most of the time, because she could get there an hour faster than the school bus did. If the weather sucked, I drove her. (It was about 6 miles.)
@Chefmongoose@werehatrack very cool. This is how you get ahead in life, provided you don’t feel compelled to live in a conformist universe. And I feel leads to greater comfort and satisfaction with life.
@Chefmongoose@pmarin She’s now the head of marketing for the whiskey distillery she reps. It’s a niche brand that is entirely women-owned and mostly women-operated. (And they make some bourbons that I actually like, which I used to swear could not be done. But they age their stuff in retired wine barrels after the charred-oak first stage.)
@kittykat9180 Those $35 (and up) versions are snob-appeal items with Brand Affiliation surcharges. The worst mass-market offender is Yeti, although there are boutique/fashion brands that get into four figures. (Yes, there are people with that level of money to spend who don’t give a rat’s ass about anyone but themselves.) As far as I have been able to tell, the functional difference between Yeti, Milwaukee, Buc-ees and Ozark Trail is the stencil used to apply the logo, but see my earlier comment for a potential issue that may or may not be present on the ones for sale here today.
@kittykat9180@werehatrack Though Yeti established there brand as making FAR superior insulated coolers than other “name brands” like Igloo and Coleman at the time. So when you paid $200 instead of $20 for a cooler it was going to insulate your ice and food a lot better if you were on an expedition. Then they expanded to cups and stuff. Granted, most of us don’t go on real expeditions.
I’d say the quality of Yeti and a few other top brands are superior. Ozark trail is the bottom-end from Walmart. Will it work fine for almost any journey?… most likely, yes.
@pmarin Outside of the vacuum-insulated stainless bits, I agree that Yeti is selling quality that others don’t have, but the question then becomes “Is it worth that much for what I need it to do?”, which as you noted, often is not the case. For these mugs and tumblers? Not so much, in my experience.
Specs
Product: 2-Pack: 40oz TruFlask Tumblers with Handle
Model: TF40 TUMBLER BLACK, TF40 TUMBLER MINT, TF40 TUMBLER SLATE BLUE, TF40 TUMBLER WHITE
Condition:
What’s Included?
Warranty
Limited Lifetime Warranty
Estimated Delivery
Thursday, Apr 24 - Monday, Apr 28
What’s the dishwasherableness of this? Give it to me straight, Meh. I can handle it…
@shahnm
To mostly answer my own question, this is buried somewhere in the TruFlask website:
“With a stainless steel tumbler, you’re going to want to avoid the dishwasher and hand-wash your tumbler to keep it in the best condition. You can put your lids and straws in the dishwasher, however, for a deep clean.”
With that said, I wonder if I’d be ok dishwashering this if I was ok with it being in not-the-best condition… How far do you think we’d be falling from best condition, Meh?
@shahnm I dishwasher all of yeti, rtic, and noname stainless tumblers. They’re probably extra faded, and the bottom cap fell off of a yeti, but there still perfectly functional. My son’s fancy Stanley, I hand wash, because the other ten-year-olds only respect pristine Stanleys. N41
@shahnm I something-searched this topic and it seems like the risk is that the seal which uh, seals the vacuum insulation may be compromised by the aggressive(?) environment which is an automatic dishwasher. And in addition to losing the insulated property, water can get in there and have a hard time getting out and it may turn yucky.
@andymand @shahnm
As mentioned below… Definitely avoid the hi-heat drying option if you run them thru the dishwasher for that reason.
@andymand @chienfou @trent
Thank you all for your insightful comments!
@shahnm I wash all my double wall tumblers in the dishwasher & haven’t had any issues doing it that way for years
@Commonwealth109 Thanks!
@Commonwealth109 @shahnm I have a new dishwasher that circulates warm air for a long time, and that is probably fine. The “classic” dishwashers with what is basically an oven heater element right under your dishes… then probably NO.
This observation may not be entirely relevant since these may have been manufactured using better materials and techniques, but the only two such mugs we’ve had didn’t retain their vacuum for very long. The post-failure examination found cracking where the mounting tabs for the handles were spot-welded to the outer shell. By comparison, we’ve had just one similar loss of insulating capability in the thirteen mugs whose handles employ a plastic band that encircles the mug. That one failed when the lead seal in the evacuation port at the bottom of the main body’s outer shell became damaged. (If you’ve wondered why it looks like there’s a pressed-on shell over the bottom of these mugs, it’s because that shell protects the evac port from being dented or otherwise damaged.)
Also, all of ours continue to work just fine despite being regularly run through a dishwasher, although a small percentage has taken some damage to the outer decorative coating.
@werehatrack I will note that we never use the “heat dry” misfeature on our dishwasher. There are way too many things that get warped by the extra heat.
Buy a gross of these and you too can collect enough water to waste as an “AI” prompt.
Still trying to impress her, “@DrunkCat”?
@DrunkCat @ItalianScallion Trying 144 ways to Sunday.
@ItalianScallion @yakkoTDI they*
@DrunkCat @ItalianScallion Sorry about the wrong pronoun for the person you are trying to win back.
@DrunkCat @ItalianScallion @yakkoTDI pronouns are so obsolete now. That’s why refuse to study further in most European languages. Why is a fork a different gender than a knife? And I forget what the table and plate are. As a logical person I could just never accept the arbitrary (but ancient) story behind that.
@yakkoTDI
“@DrunkCat” I shall henceforth use they/them unless “AI” tells me otherwise.
If I didn’t already own what sometimes seems to be an almost warehouse-full quantity of these things and similar …
th@f00l large box in old dining room-office-storage room. Deciding what to do with them. A few showed up in boxes the last few weeks and I don’t remember ordering them. Do you think I have a problem?
I still prefer the “non-handle” style as the screw-on-top and flip-up-lid ones are more leak resistant. Plus since I use them frequently while mowing, dust is less of an issue. When I travel I can clip it to my travel bag or backpack more easily as well.
Meh offering the equivalent of Walmart brand jeans Sure they’ll function perfectly identical to the fancy ones and the logo will be the only difference. But your tweens and teens must deal with the social stigmas of not having the name brand, their friends and frenemies will notice.
So if this is for you, millennial or Gen X reader, go get 'em. Zoomer at college: Everyone is starting to not give a f*ck about other people’s name brands, except with booze. Go for these.
@Chefmongoose Twenty years ago, my daughter proudly became a fashionista at her high school by never wearing matching socks and often not wearing matching shoes. I was in awe of her ability to get away with just about anything in the attire area. Also, she actually rode her bike to school most of the time, because she could get there an hour faster than the school bus did. If the weather sucked, I drove her. (It was about 6 miles.)
@werehatrack You have a kick-ass kid.
@Chefmongoose @werehatrack very cool. This is how you get ahead in life, provided you don’t feel compelled to live in a conformist universe. And I feel leads to greater comfort and satisfaction with life.
@Chefmongoose @pmarin She’s now the head of marketing for the whiskey distillery she reps. It’s a niche brand that is entirely women-owned and mostly women-operated. (And they make some bourbons that I actually like, which I used to swear could not be done. But they age their stuff in retired wine barrels after the charred-oak first stage.)
What’s the big deal with these? I saw some at Home Depot for $35 and who would pay that much it’s to carry a drink around?
@kittykat9180 Those $35 (and up) versions are snob-appeal items with Brand Affiliation surcharges. The worst mass-market offender is Yeti, although there are boutique/fashion brands that get into four figures. (Yes, there are people with that level of money to spend who don’t give a rat’s ass about anyone but themselves.) As far as I have been able to tell, the functional difference between Yeti, Milwaukee, Buc-ees and Ozark Trail is the stencil used to apply the logo, but see my earlier comment for a potential issue that may or may not be present on the ones for sale here today.
@kittykat9180 @werehatrack Though Yeti established there brand as making FAR superior insulated coolers than other “name brands” like Igloo and Coleman at the time. So when you paid $200 instead of $20 for a cooler it was going to insulate your ice and food a lot better if you were on an expedition. Then they expanded to cups and stuff. Granted, most of us don’t go on real expeditions.
I’d say the quality of Yeti and a few other top brands are superior. Ozark trail is the bottom-end from Walmart. Will it work fine for almost any journey?… most likely, yes.
@pmarin Outside of the vacuum-insulated stainless bits, I agree that Yeti is selling quality that others don’t have, but the question then becomes “Is it worth that much for what I need it to do?”, which as you noted, often is not the case. For these mugs and tumblers? Not so much, in my experience.
@kittykat9180 @pmarin @werehatrack Project Farm did test some tumblers not too long ago, and there are differences:
My sub-$10 ones from some cat-sat-on-a-keyboard brands are good enough, though.
What the heck? On Amazon it has a 5 star rating. But only one person has ever rated it.
My wife says they’re “cute” which means I need to order them.
/giphy blue-kingly-lettuce
