@AaronLeeJohnson@thechinglish Values of typical Cybertrucks bought up through about October plummeted by 50K or more within weeks, sometimes within 24 hours. Everyone who bought one on a loan is seriously upside-down on the value, and can only get out from under it by taking a major cash hit or a huge credit score hit. The car models have held up much better, but they’re still worth a lot less today than they ought to be at this point.
@AaronLeeJohnson@thechinglish@werehatrack yea but there is a reason for that. The actual connector has been adopted as a standard and is going to used on most cars going forward. It’s just a fancy extension cord.
@AaronLeeJohnson@user21811747 One can believe and purport to believe in all kinds of things. Despite what some folks like to think, the belief and the pretense generally don’t grant superhuman powers.
But, hey, how about we give your hypothesis a test? I’m game.
I am more genuinely amused at all the chumps who bought the cybertruck. Even ignoring all the ugliness/screwed up parts, they (seemingly) happily paid $60,000 over the $40,000 list price… just for some reason?
And as a bonus, everyone kinda knew that Elon was a crap human being (and a racist, and a Nazi) by the time they went on sale. So now you know that every cybertruck owner is basically a horrible human being themselves, and they are even advertising it.
Incredibly good price. I have a non-NACS EV currently, but I’m considering picking this up. I have a second 14-50 outlet ready to go in my garage, and then I’d be ready to go when my wife gets an EV or plug in hybrid in the future.
@blastit LOL Just 45 minutes in and they’ve already sold 9.
“NACS” stands for North American Charging Standard, as in, every new EV will use this plug going forward. They should have made it more clear in the write-up, but this will work out of the box on many non-Tesla EVs.
@seraphimcaduto These are not a Tesla product. They are Tesla-compatible, but are also compatible with other makes that use the NACS charging standard.
@alacrity All EVs currently on the market are randomly compliant with the s’mores standard. Customer must supply their own giant crackers, marshmallow, and chocolate bar.
I completely agree with the early and strong hate for Musk, but please everyone remember that there are lots of great EVs that are not Teslas. Just because this has a NACS connector doesn’t mean Tesla or Musk is getting anything from the sale. This particular unit isn’t for me (I prefer a longer cable and something portable), but it seems like a decent deal.
-A Chevy Bolt EV owner, former Chevy Spark EV owner, and soon-to-be Chevy Equinox EV owner
EDIT: I have Lectron’s NACS-to-J1772 adapter for charging at hotels with Tesla destination chargers, and it works well. Lectron seems like a good brand.
What does it mean that this item is for sale on Meh, of all places? Has the Tesla car reached a saturation point where products for Tesla are just sitting around in the warehouse? Or has the vandalism campaign really convinced enough people to not buy a Tesla because where I live I see a couple Teslas a week, and they aren’t vandalized either. It’s not endemic enough to actually stop all people from ever buying a Tesla. The Tesla stock priced plateaued, and the earnings call last month didn’t drive the price up or down by a strong margin.
I wouldn’t buy an electric car. Anyone’s electric car. It’s worse for the environment than a normal car, and I don’t want to think about the electric bill you’d get from charging your car every day. Also, the fires from those batteries are horrible, difficult to put out once it gets going.
I think it’s interesting from an investment standpoint that this is for sale here, but I’d be surprised if even a Tesla owner would want to buy this.
@AaronLeeJohnson I know arguing on the Internet is like pissing into the wind, but you’re wrong about your anti-EV talking points. They are better for the environment, full stop. They cost less per mile than their gas-powered equivalents if you charge at home. They are statistically less likely to catch fire than gas-powered vehicles.
@AaronLeeJohnson most american EVs have adopted NACS as their charging standards, so this product is not exclusive to Teslas. For what it is, it’s a pretty good deal.
@AaronLeeJohnson Sorry to dispute your statements, but it is not worse for the environment than the usual (internal combustion or ICE cars as they have been called for years) vehicles. Charging it costs about a third of the cost for gas for the same miles. If you have solar power it gets cheaper. The fires in electric cars can be hard to put out, but they are much more rare than fires in internal combustion ones. And there is almost no maintenance.
@therealjrn Even Road & Track, which I have been reading since 1960, reports on EVs and has EV of the Year articles. As others have indicated, get used to the future.
@AaronLeeJohnson@matthewjfazio I actually agree with you, and I regret the feeble attempt at being forceful. I stand by everything else I wrote, but I have a similar gut reaction as you at that phrase .
@seespotbark I don’t think I’d want to run 50amp/240v through an adapter that isn’t UL listed. there are certified adapters out there, this isn’t one as far as I can tell.
The Lectron V-BOX Pro is UL2594 and ETL compliant for safety, FCC and Energy Star certified for efficiency, and IP65 rated for use in challenging weather conditions.
also noted that the newer models are labeled “level 2”. Did not linger to find out what that was about, but looked like more flexibility in connections and programming charging rates.
Also noted price direct is $369 with free shipping. A bit less than amazon. This offer here looks like a good deal.
@efierke@seespotbark@stolicat Level 2 is the term for home chargers that run on 240 v (some plug into dryer outlets) and some of the commercial chargers. They are faster than 120 v plugs and slower than Level 3 DC chargers which are not made for home use.
Chevy Bolt owner here. I already have the NACS adapter, and I would totally get one of these… If my house didn’t require $4000-$5000 of electrical upgrades to make it work safely.
Tesla sucks, their leader is a skidmark of a human, etc etc.
So much hate for Teslas here.
IDK, you can sign your title over to me, whisper me your address, and I’ll drive my old oil-burning 2005 pickup over to get it from you (assuming it would make it that far; not sure how many more miles I could add to the 330,000 already on it).
I guess that transaction would improve both of our lives.
A circus clown car would be a step up from what I’m driving now.
@efierke@phendrick I don’t know if they have softened their stance, but as of last I checked, the Tesla company had given its customers more than adequate reason to dislike them due to its extremist stance on right-to-repair; the owner does not have an inherent right to make any repair to a Tesla according to their policy. Often, the dealerships have refused to sell parts to an owner, and in states with no explicit RtR law, they routinely refuse to sell to third-party repair shops.
@phendrick I feel like youre missing the point. Its not blind hate for Tesla or even the cars. If you already have one and like it, enjoy .
Elon could ONLY do all the harm he has because of his money from Tesla. Saying i wont ever buy another Tesla product is more a kin to “i wont give Elon more bullets " . Also its a message, " I dont condone ANY CEO trying this again” .
Its not [just] about cars, its about sponsoring a generally bad persons efforts to do bad things, and hoping that the collapse of a once solid company skews the “cost / benefit for the next CEO”.
@phendrick So much “virtue signalling” going on, it’s hilarious.
Everyone loved Elon-- the green energy space man who will send us to mars-- until he bought Twitter. Then he was thrown out of the Progressive cult, like every other member who didn’t follow lock-step with what “the current thing” is.
“@DrunkCat” Please resubmit the bug report on yourself regarding your continued inability to understand comments to the software developer(s) that created you. They’ll fix you if they can, and if they can’t, well have a nice life inside an obsolete robot that scrubs plasma conduits.
This sucker is nearly 2/3 off the full price, just sounds too cheap and too good to be true
I never read Anything in the description about being refurbished or returns. Could these be “Over stock”???
@dahobbs9@TimW The chances are good that the manufacturer overbuilt with the expectation that the Cybertruck market share would meet projections. It’s fair to say that it didn’t. And with new vehicle sales rates (in general) set to fall off a cliff, this may reflect a prudent move on their part. Meanwhile, people who already have a NACS-compliant vehicle (or one that can use the NACS charger via an adapter) now have the option of picking up a relatively fast charger cheap. (Getting it wired may be a different matter.)
what they don’t tell you is, you have to actually plug this charger into something else, or it won’t charge your car. something else needs to provide energy to this first. and guess what? that thing also will need to be plugged in. and so on and so forth. this is why an electric car can never be charged, and why gas is better.
I don’t even have an EV. I have a $400 28 year old suv and a disassembled 34 year old metro. And I’m tempted. That’s a pretty good price for a 50 A lvl 2 charger.
Definitely shouldn’t have marketed it as Tesla related since the connector is the north American standard and. Well. The Nazi dude
@stinks it’s a shorthand way of saying “this unit can add up to 46 miles of range to your electric vehicle for every hour that it is plugged in.” It’s on the large end home charging stations.
@Commonwealth109 People have every right to their feelings. Negative feelings about Musk are fully warranted and variously relevant. Part of what’s great about this space is that we talk shit about all kinds of stuff. Are you new here or just thick?
I’m seeing lots of love for EV and plenty of defense of the charger itself, even from those who rightly despise Musk.
@rzaffke whoa there partner; cult of personality aside, their tech and approach has been unmatched. it’s unfortunate that the best thing now would be for Tesla to distance themselves from their lightning rod.
@kittykat9180 That seller is using our sale as a supply and will just be ordering it from meh as soon as an order rolls through on Amazon. Very frustrating!
I was surprised to see a Tesla compatible charger on Meh but it’s a lot more complicated than just buying the charger. You need a 50A circuit run to this.
I tried to do this with the Tesla version of this 5.5 years ago but it was going to cost me $5000-$8000 to do this because of unattached garage with too small of a breaker panel at the opposite end of the house from the garage.
I’ve been doing wall outlet charging ever since. getting about 5 mph on my charging speed but, after 5.5 years (thanks to Covid) I have barely over 20k miles on my Model 3 so that’s been good enough!
@jjlcle The cost of the installation, if you already have enough space in the breaker box, is often increased by the distance from the box to the device since the heavy gauge wire needed for the run is expensive.
@andyw@jjlcle When we leased an EV a few years ago (not a Tesla), I quickly realized that a fast home charger was necessary. Fortunately, when we built this house back in '97, I took the advice of the local electric utility and had a 400A service installed, with 2 breaker panels in the garage. Made it a snap to wire a 50A outlet for the EV charger. (I did it myself, with ~$50 worth of HW from Home Depot. )
@jjlcle I don’t believe you have to have a 50A circuit to power this unit, the unit features flexible charging options with multiple amp settings (16, 32, 40 & 48A). You DO need to have a circuit with at least 125% of the Amps selected on the unit.
16A charging requires a 20A circuit and 48A would require a 60A circuit.
Meh, I’m really getting tired of the utterly unethical shit you’re getting up to. It feels like you’re starting to really show us who you are and it’s not good. Maybe have an ethical consult? This plus all the AI stuff, you’re seeming more and more like this company is also part of Amazon, not just your last one
@shirlema I assume they used “Tesla” in the title for clickbait, but this is just a charger with an NACS connector which is standard for all EVs in North America as of 2025. It’s not made by Tesla and doesn’t make any money for Tesla, it can just be used to charge a Tesla or any other EV you can currently buy. It’s like if Meh ran a deal for Michelin tires that could fit on a Tesla.
@shirlema I don’t understand what exactly you think is unethical about selling this product.
I hate the rich Nazi as much as anybody, but this is a third-party EV charger that uses the NACS standard that most EVs in North America will support going forward.
@demonbane@shirlema Didn’t use it as clickbait – Amazon uses Tesla in the title as well because it’s a way to differentiate from J1772. Tesla and NACS have been synonymous for the longest time but that’s just now changing.
In terms of EV safety, search for the article about a year ago of a California physician who decided to kill himself, his wife and his two young kids. He drove his Tesla Model Y off a 225 foot cliff on the Pacific Coast Highway north of LA. Everyone survived with minimal injuries and there was no car fire. He was arrested. I can’t imagine that result with a gas-powered car.
The outlet this comes with is only rated to 40A, while the charger can output up to 48A. Be sure to limit the charger output to 40A, else the outlet could potentially overheat and start a fire.
@mrdancer But wouldn’t the circuit being used for the charger have a proper circuit breaker to limit the current to what the wiring and outlet could handle? That seems like basic code and safety compliance to me.
The charger isn’t shown as coming with an outlet, just that it has a NEMA 14-50 plug. NEMA 14-50 is rated to 50 amps, so I’m not sure why they are saying the limit is 40 amps.
@mrdancer I am not an electrician, but… I believe the 48 A means it can deliver up to 48 amps when connected to a 60 a breaker. You are allowed to deliver 80% of a breaker’s rating. It was badly stated, but I am sure it means, if you are not hard-wiring it, it comes with a plug that goes into a NEMA 14-50 outlet and if that is 50 A, you would get 40 A to charge with.
@Bloodshedder a NEMA 14-50 can only be used at 80% capacity for ‘continuous loads’ like charging, so limited to 40A w/ a 14-50 connector.
The danger is that a 14-50 receptacle is permitted to be wired with only 8/3 cable and a 40A breaker; that would be bad if running at 40A.
@Bloodshedder the limit is 40 amps because the steady load by the national electrical code for circuit breakers is limited to 80% of the rated load. Thus a NEMA 50 outlet is limited to 40 amps.
@norrisjc You could instead buy any number of cars now shipping with NACS ports, or any number of other cars without NACS ports but use a $30 NACS adapter.
@eslabs1 What am I missing? Apparently the cord is 16 feet? Or did you mean the cord going from the charger to the 50 amp circuit? Because those are seemingly always short.
Specs
Product: Lectron Tesla (NACS) V-Box Pro 48A 240V Level 2 EV Charger
Model: EV-Charger48A-TSL-Pro
Condition: New
What’s Included?
Price Comparison
$399.99 at Amazon
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Thursday, May 8 - Monday, May 12
guh
@thechinglish Imagine losing 50K in a single day. Wouldn’t be me. And if it was. I wouldn’t be me the day after.
@AaronLeeJohnson huh?
@AaronLeeJohnson @thechinglish Values of typical Cybertrucks bought up through about October plummeted by 50K or more within weeks, sometimes within 24 hours. Everyone who bought one on a loan is seriously upside-down on the value, and can only get out from under it by taking a major cash hit or a huge credit score hit. The car models have held up much better, but they’re still worth a lot less today than they ought to be at this point.
@AaronLeeJohnson @thechinglish @werehatrack yea but there is a reason for that. The actual connector has been adopted as a standard and is going to used on most cars going forward. It’s just a fancy extension cord.
@AaronLeeJohnson @thechinglish @werehatrack weird response to “guh” though
No thanks. Now if we could plug 240V into Elon…
@user21811747 And charge him? Elon Musk is a trans humanist. What are you going to do when you plug him with volts and his eyes light up?
@AaronLeeJohnson @user21811747 One can believe and purport to believe in all kinds of things. Despite what some folks like to think, the belief and the pretense generally don’t grant superhuman powers.
But, hey, how about we give your hypothesis a test? I’m game.
/giphy electrocuted
Be sure to keep the ovens burning long and hot enough to generate enough electricity to use this to charge your Swasticar.
@PeteJolicoeur Majority liberals bought the swasticar. Liberals and tech enthusiasts. Nazis are still driving the Volkswagen as god intended.
I am more genuinely amused at all the chumps who bought the cybertruck. Even ignoring all the ugliness/screwed up parts, they (seemingly) happily paid $60,000 over the $40,000 list price… just for some reason?
And as a bonus, everyone kinda knew that Elon was a crap human being (and a racist, and a Nazi) by the time they went on sale. So now you know that every cybertruck owner is basically a horrible human being themselves, and they are even advertising it.
People, can we avoid having this thread get major chunks locked or deleted, and take the political commentary over to the PBS thread?
Yes, I know, it’s really hard to separate Tesla from politics. Please try, here.
(I have no official standing to regulate or enforce a damn thing; this is just a suggestion pro bono.)
@werehatrack I’m more or less with you.
I’d just like to point out that
@PeteJolicoeur Get out of here with your political fanaticism. It’s pathetic.
Incredibly good price. I have a non-NACS EV currently, but I’m considering picking this up. I have a second 14-50 outlet ready to go in my garage, and then I’d be ready to go when my wife gets an EV or plug in hybrid in the future.
The picture looks like it supports 2 plugs, but the specs don’t mention it. Hmmmm
@pfd314 One cable goes to the wall for power.
I want to know the selling stats, no way meh sells more than 5 of these.
Elon can suck eggs, hope his companies fold like Trumps casinos
@blastit This supports non Tesla EVs, and is not a Tesla product.
@blastit most american EV manufacturers have adopted NACS as their standard.
@blastit LOL Just 45 minutes in and they’ve already sold 9.
“NACS” stands for North American Charging Standard, as in, every new EV will use this plug going forward. They should have made it more clear in the write-up, but this will work out of the box on many non-Tesla EVs.
@blastit 47 minutes into the deal, they’ve sold 10 of them, so yeah.
@blastit HA HA One hour in and they’re up to 12 sold. That Musk guy really is smart huh.
@blastit According to the pie chart, someone bought 10 of them, and someone else bought 5. I’m really curious why.
@blastit Get out of here with your political fanaticism. It’s pathetic.
@blastit Sale is halfway over and we’re at 130 sold… or 2600% over your guess of 5 max
@lisagd22, @troy said it was a seller on Amazon that bought those ten. They’re selling them for $300. Capitalism at its finest. /sarcasm off
You know how you can tell your company has gone sideways? The main way to use your product has ended up as a meh daily deal!
@seraphimcaduto These are not a Tesla product. They are Tesla-compatible, but are also compatible with other makes that use the NACS charging standard.
are these comparable with the S’mores option package?
@alacrity All EVs currently on the market are randomly compliant with the s’mores standard. Customer must supply their own giant crackers, marshmallow, and chocolate bar.
I completely agree with the early and strong hate for Musk, but please everyone remember that there are lots of great EVs that are not Teslas. Just because this has a NACS connector doesn’t mean Tesla or Musk is getting anything from the sale. This particular unit isn’t for me (I prefer a longer cable and something portable), but it seems like a decent deal.
-A Chevy Bolt EV owner, former Chevy Spark EV owner, and soon-to-be Chevy Equinox EV owner
EDIT: I have Lectron’s NACS-to-J1772 adapter for charging at hotels with Tesla destination chargers, and it works well. Lectron seems like a good brand.
@gnafuthemeh agreed. If anything, buying this charger probably hurts Tesla/Musk more than it helps them.
@gnafuthemeh so do these work with non Tesla cars? Because I would love one for a non-swasticar
@seraphimcaduto Yes, with an appropriate adapter (or one of the newer EVs shipping with NACS connectors).
@gnafuthemeh @seraphimcaduto did you even read any of the write-up and description???
Can this plug into as many cars as women Musk has plugged and impregnated?
@Felton10 naturally or artificially because I heard he has problems with the former nowadays.
@Felton10 He has all the data from the menstruation tracking apps so he can send his spunk around to women in time for the turkey basters
What does it mean that this item is for sale on Meh, of all places? Has the Tesla car reached a saturation point where products for Tesla are just sitting around in the warehouse? Or has the vandalism campaign really convinced enough people to not buy a Tesla because where I live I see a couple Teslas a week, and they aren’t vandalized either. It’s not endemic enough to actually stop all people from ever buying a Tesla. The Tesla stock priced plateaued, and the earnings call last month didn’t drive the price up or down by a strong margin.
I wouldn’t buy an electric car. Anyone’s electric car. It’s worse for the environment than a normal car, and I don’t want to think about the electric bill you’d get from charging your car every day. Also, the fires from those batteries are horrible, difficult to put out once it gets going.
I think it’s interesting from an investment standpoint that this is for sale here, but I’d be surprised if even a Tesla owner would want to buy this.
@AaronLeeJohnson I know arguing on the Internet is like pissing into the wind, but you’re wrong about your anti-EV talking points. They are better for the environment, full stop. They cost less per mile than their gas-powered equivalents if you charge at home. They are statistically less likely to catch fire than gas-powered vehicles.
@AaronLeeJohnson most american EVs have adopted NACS as their charging standards, so this product is not exclusive to Teslas. For what it is, it’s a pretty good deal.
@AaronLeeJohnson Sorry to dispute your statements, but it is not worse for the environment than the usual (internal combustion or ICE cars as they have been called for years) vehicles. Charging it costs about a third of the cost for gas for the same miles. If you have solar power it gets cheaper. The fires in electric cars can be hard to put out, but they are much more rare than fires in internal combustion ones. And there is almost no maintenance.
Yeah, there is a lot of wrong misinformation in your comment,@AaronLeeJohnson
@andyw
Not in my world. Not even for a week. Here we call them “cars.” Stop trying to make “ICE cars” a thing, they are not a thing…
@therealjrn OK, have fun living in the past!
@The_Tim It’s nice back here! You know, everybody knows their place and whatnot.
WOW, is that a loaded phrase!!
I really hope that doesn’t mean what it seems to mean.
@AaronLeeJohnson Maybe you could get a Tesla in an IRK?
@therealjrn Even Road & Track, which I have been reading since 1960, reports on EVs and has EV of the Year articles. As others have indicated, get used to the future.
@AaronLeeJohnson @gnafuthemeh I tend to discredit anything said by a person using the phrase “full stop.”
@AaronLeeJohnson @matthewjfazio I actually agree with you, and I regret the feeble attempt at being forceful. I stand by everything else I wrote, but I have a similar gut reaction as you at that phrase
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I’m totally getting this. I don’t have a Tesla but I have a compatible pHEV and it’s going to be ace to get a full charge in a few hours.
Is it just me, or is the link to that $28 adapter broken?
@seespotbark Nope, it is broken for me also.
@andyw @seespotbark sorry! Fixed!
@seespotbark I don’t think I’d want to run 50amp/240v through an adapter that isn’t UL listed. there are certified adapters out there, this isn’t one as far as I can tell.
@efierke @seespotbark from the Lectron website:
also noted that the newer models are labeled “level 2”. Did not linger to find out what that was about, but looked like more flexibility in connections and programming charging rates.
Also noted price direct is $369 with free shipping. A bit less than amazon. This offer here looks like a good deal.
@efierke @seespotbark @stolicat Level 2 is the term for home chargers that run on 240 v (some plug into dryer outlets) and some of the commercial chargers. They are faster than 120 v plugs and slower than Level 3 DC chargers which are not made for home use.
Chevy Bolt owner here. I already have the NACS adapter, and I would totally get one of these… If my house didn’t require $4000-$5000 of electrical upgrades to make it work safely.
Tesla sucks, their leader is a skidmark of a human, etc etc.
So much hate for Teslas here.
IDK, you can sign your title over to me, whisper me your address, and I’ll drive my old oil-burning 2005 pickup over to get it from you (assuming it would make it that far; not sure how many more miles I could add to the 330,000 already on it).
I guess that transaction would improve both of our lives.
A circus clown car would be a step up from what I’m driving now.
The hate is far more directed at the current CEO, and not the company itself, @phendrick.
But in all honesty, it should be more surprising that everyone doesn’t hate a Nazi.
@phendrick “so much hate for Teslas here”
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not enough.
@efierke @phendrick I don’t know if they have softened their stance, but as of last I checked, the Tesla company had given its customers more than adequate reason to dislike them due to its extremist stance on right-to-repair; the owner does not have an inherent right to make any repair to a Tesla according to their policy. Often, the dealerships have refused to sell parts to an owner, and in states with no explicit RtR law, they routinely refuse to sell to third-party repair shops.
@phendrick I feel like youre missing the point. Its not blind hate for Tesla or even the cars. If you already have one and like it, enjoy .
Elon could ONLY do all the harm he has because of his money from Tesla. Saying i wont ever buy another Tesla product is more a kin to “i wont give Elon more bullets " . Also its a message, " I dont condone ANY CEO trying this again” .
Its not [just] about cars, its about sponsoring a generally bad persons efforts to do bad things, and hoping that the collapse of a once solid company skews the “cost / benefit for the next CEO”.
@phendrick So much “virtue signalling” going on, it’s hilarious.
Everyone loved Elon-- the green energy space man who will send us to mars-- until he bought Twitter. Then he was thrown out of the Progressive cult, like every other member who didn’t follow lock-step with what “the current thing” is.
They are a fickle bunch.
I’m sorry the cost for you to get wired is so high. Musk is a terrible person on many (?all) levels, but the Model 3 and model Y are excellent cars.
This looks like an excellent bargain.
Oh cool, didn’t realize they were gonna start selling nazi paraphernalia with their side of “AI” slop.
@DrunkCat Try again. This is not a Tesla product.
@werehatrack Tesla branding all over that page. If they don’t want the association, don’t use the branding.
@werehatrack It’s what we should expect from the faulty, bug-ridden, sloppy “AI” implementation that “@DrunkCat” is.
@ItalianScallion Please resubmit your comment in the form of a showme prompt.
“@DrunkCat” Please resubmit the bug report on yourself regarding your continued inability to understand comments to the software developer(s) that created you. They’ll fix you if they can, and if they can’t, well have a nice life inside an obsolete robot that scrubs plasma conduits.
“NACS” stands for North American Charging Standard, as in, every new EV will use this plug going forward.
Meh should have made it more clear in the write-up, but this will work out of the box on many non-Tesla EVs, no adapter required.
Oh, and since nobody asked, here’s a 48-minute video on the topic.
@The_Tim I’m a simple man. I see a Technology Connections video, I click the star.
This sucker is nearly 2/3 off the full price, just sounds too cheap and too good to be true
I never read Anything in the description about being refurbished or returns. Could these be “Over stock”???
@dahobbs9 the specs say “Condition: New”.
@dahobbs9 @TimW The chances are good that the manufacturer overbuilt with the expectation that the Cybertruck market share would meet projections. It’s fair to say that it didn’t. And with new vehicle sales rates (in general) set to fall off a cliff, this may reflect a prudent move on their part. Meanwhile, people who already have a NACS-compliant vehicle (or one that can use the NACS charger via an adapter) now have the option of picking up a relatively fast charger cheap. (Getting it wired may be a different matter.)
what they don’t tell you is, you have to actually plug this charger into something else, or it won’t charge your car. something else needs to provide energy to this first. and guess what? that thing also will need to be plugged in. and so on and so forth. this is why an electric car can never be charged, and why gas is better.
We already have the rewire on the books, and this seems to cheap and convenient to pass up.
/giphy morbid-ferocious-rib
/showme morbid ferocious rib
I don’t even have an EV. I have a $400 28 year old suv and a disassembled 34 year old metro. And I’m tempted. That’s a pretty good price for a 50 A lvl 2 charger.
Definitely shouldn’t have marketed it as Tesla related since the connector is the north American standard and. Well. The Nazi dude
I have a 33 Y.O Toyota XCab with 150K Miles. NO, you Can’t have it
Daily Driver, gotta love it, barely broken in. 
@Mandamm - Nice!
You must not drive very far each day. My '92 Accord has <120K miles and the original cassette deck.
I did Nazi this coming, Meh. Perhaps youll get some of those over priced cyberclunks to sell on a MehRaThon?
/showme a exploding vehicle
Okay what does “Up to 46 MPH of charge” mean? That does not inspire confidence.
@stinks it’s a shorthand way of saying “this unit can add up to 46 miles of range to your electric vehicle for every hour that it is plugged in.” It’s on the large end home charging stations.
Looks like this is the older model, not the refreshed latest model which has J-hook and WiFi app access.
@KhoaTon nobody really needs wifi access/control. The cars already have that built-in
People are so soft, it’s endless entertainment. Seriously people - this is literally just a car charger
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@Commonwealth109 People have every right to their feelings. Negative feelings about Musk are fully warranted and variously relevant. Part of what’s great about this space is that we talk shit about all kinds of stuff. Are you new here or just thick?
I’m seeing lots of love for EV and plenty of defense of the charger itself, even from those who rightly despise Musk.
Seems about right to me.
Bless your heart. It sounds like you need a hug.
/giphy you need a hug
@joelmw - Thanks for saying this. I came this
close to knee-jerk canceling my meh account today. Glad I came to the comments first.
Well, this is a politically charged deal. Perhaps if you offered the actual Tesla for $149, more folks would go for it…
That’s a great deal. I’d be all over this but between my 10 year old Siemens and GE Watt Station, I’m covered.
A great charger for a great car made by a great person.
@rzaffke whoa there partner; cult of personality aside, their tech and approach has been unmatched. it’s unfortunate that the best thing now would be for Tesla to distance themselves from their lightning rod.
@coleman567 @rzaffke
And make high quality cars and completely disable their self-driving features until they get them working in a safe way.
How long until Meh is offering actual Cybertrucks? Maybe even on Twofer Tuesday?
I clicked on the link to Amazon and it shows it’s $300.
@kittykat9180 That seller is using our sale as a supply and will just be ordering it from meh as soon as an order rolls through on Amazon. Very frustrating!
@kittykat9180 @troy Is that the person who ordered 10?
@Kyeh yup! He’ll be a bit out of luck if someone orders from him today
@Kyeh @troy
https://meh.com/forum/topics/circuit-breaker-and-fighting-runners
@narfcake @troy So are his orders being cancelled? I see that there’s a limit of 3 now.
I was surprised to see a Tesla compatible charger on Meh but it’s a lot more complicated than just buying the charger. You need a 50A circuit run to this.
I tried to do this with the Tesla version of this 5.5 years ago but it was going to cost me $5000-$8000 to do this because of unattached garage with too small of a breaker panel at the opposite end of the house from the garage.
I’ve been doing wall outlet charging ever since.
getting about 5 mph on my charging speed but, after 5.5 years (thanks to Covid) I have barely over 20k miles on my Model 3 so that’s been good enough!
@jjlcle The cost of the installation, if you already have enough space in the breaker box, is often increased by the distance from the box to the device since the heavy gauge wire needed for the run is expensive.
@andyw @jjlcle When we leased an EV a few years ago (not a Tesla), I quickly realized that a fast home charger was necessary. Fortunately, when we built this house back in '97, I took the advice of the local electric utility and had a 400A service installed, with 2 breaker panels in the garage. Made it a snap to wire a 50A outlet for the EV charger. (I did it myself, with ~$50 worth of HW from Home Depot.
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@jjlcle I don’t believe you have to have a 50A circuit to power this unit, the unit features flexible charging options with multiple amp settings (16, 32, 40 & 48A). You DO need to have a circuit with at least 125% of the Amps selected on the unit.
16A charging requires a 20A circuit and 48A would require a 60A circuit.
Meh, I’m really getting tired of the utterly unethical shit you’re getting up to. It feels like you’re starting to really show us who you are and it’s not good. Maybe have an ethical consult? This plus all the AI stuff, you’re seeming more and more like this company is also part of Amazon, not just your last one
@shirlema I assume they used “Tesla” in the title for clickbait, but this is just a charger with an NACS connector which is standard for all EVs in North America as of 2025. It’s not made by Tesla and doesn’t make any money for Tesla, it can just be used to charge a Tesla or any other EV you can currently buy. It’s like if Meh ran a deal for Michelin tires that could fit on a Tesla.
@shirlema I don’t understand what exactly you think is unethical about selling this product.
I hate the rich Nazi as much as anybody, but this is a third-party EV charger that uses the NACS standard that most EVs in North America will support going forward.
@demonbane @shirlema Didn’t use it as clickbait – Amazon uses Tesla in the title as well because it’s a way to differentiate from J1772. Tesla and NACS have been synonymous for the longest time but that’s just now changing.
@shirlema “Unethical Shit”
Get out of here with your political fanaticism.
In terms of EV safety, search for the article about a year ago of a California physician who decided to kill himself, his wife and his two young kids. He drove his Tesla Model Y off a 225 foot cliff on the Pacific Coast Highway north of LA. Everyone survived with minimal injuries and there was no car fire. He was arrested. I can’t imagine that result with a gas-powered car.
@andyw Hey, at least he didn’t try to kill his family by running the car with the garage door closed. OH WAIT–
The outlet this comes with is only rated to 40A, while the charger can output up to 48A. Be sure to limit the charger output to 40A, else the outlet could potentially overheat and start a fire.
@mrdancer But wouldn’t the circuit being used for the charger have a proper circuit breaker to limit the current to what the wiring and outlet could handle? That seems like basic code and safety compliance to me.
The charger isn’t shown as coming with an outlet, just that it has a NEMA 14-50 plug. NEMA 14-50 is rated to 50 amps, so I’m not sure why they are saying the limit is 40 amps.
@mrdancer I am not an electrician, but… I believe the 48 A means it can deliver up to 48 amps when connected to a 60 a breaker. You are allowed to deliver 80% of a breaker’s rating. It was badly stated, but I am sure it means, if you are not hard-wiring it, it comes with a plug that goes into a NEMA 14-50 outlet and if that is 50 A, you would get 40 A to charge with.
@Bloodshedder a NEMA 14-50 can only be used at 80% capacity for ‘continuous loads’ like charging, so limited to 40A w/ a 14-50 connector.
The danger is that a 14-50 receptacle is permitted to be wired with only 8/3 cable and a 40A breaker; that would be bad if running at 40A.
@Bloodshedder the limit is 40 amps because the steady load by the national electrical code for circuit breakers is limited to 80% of the rated load. Thus a NEMA 50 outlet is limited to 40 amps.
Man, this almost has me convinced that it’s finally time to buy a Tesla
@norrisjc You could instead buy any number of cars now shipping with NACS ports, or any number of other cars without NACS ports but use a $30 NACS adapter.
Straight to the comments!
i saw a Tesla yesterday with ALL the identifiers taken off!
@samnsara Some folks go a step further to rebadge them as a different brand.
I’m not sure I’m convinced. I know racoons aren’t:
No mobile App access and short cable. this why it is cheap.
@eslabs1 What am I missing? Apparently the cord is 16 feet? Or did you mean the cord going from the charger to the 50 amp circuit? Because those are seemingly always short.
@eslabs1 @MeLlamoScott 25’ is the common standard and expectation with level 2 chargers
Came here to read the comments made by political fanatics, was not disappointed.