@heartny
I have never purchased a television in my life. The only reasons I’ve ever had a TV was because someone I lived with (family, roommate, boyfriend) had one.
@kittykat9180 I only had a TV because I had a friend who worked for Sony and he gave me his employee discount. This was before flat panels, so the thing weighed a ton and was not energy efficient.
There’s a lot of stuff plugged in near the TV, but the TV itself (and a small surge protector) are the only things plugged into the outlet immediately behind the TV. Our new house came with wall-mounting outlets.
Back in 2001, it was a TV and VCR (and it became “and stereo with 3 CD rotation” and game system and DVD and HDTV tuner and another game system)… And now add media server, router, and rotating external drive enclosure.
Let me see-I may miss something. TV, cable box, router, amplifier-receiver, subwoofer, cd-dvd player, Google TV Streamer (replaced Chromecast). I may add more after I look at it later.
@andyw I can’t seem to edit my post, so I’ll reply to my own! Also plugged in is the ONT, which for those without fiber it is the Optical Network Terminal which converts the optical fiber signal to electrical that the modem and router can use. Actually, I think the modem is plugged into the outlet and the ONT is plugged into the modem.
@Kidsandliz From your comments in the past, you seem like a nice person, so when it is scheduled I’ll drop you a line. Actually, most of them are low or very low wattage items. The amp-receiver could be more, but it usually runs at low-ish volumes. The subwoofer I’m not sure about, but is usually at low volumes and the rest are mostly like lightbulbs in terms of consumption, so you may not get an invite! (Thank goodness, especially as I am dealing with a probable busted circuit breaker on another, low amp, line and I am not relishing replacing it, even though “it is easy” as they say).
@andyw Hmm you might need to up the demand on the outlets so there is a spectacular show. And thank you for offering an invite. Unless you have a tele-transporter it might take me a while to get from here to you though so please be sure to time this firework event so I have enough time drive to see it.
@Kidsandliz I hope not! I’m working on the teleporter and it should be ready any century now. And I forgot something else-a Google mesh wi-fi device (also low wattage).
@andyw added to the post and it said forbidden so I guess it took to long to edit. Here is the rest of it. Thank you the back button.
And I really, really like fireworks. On the 4th of July we’d shoot them off at my grandmothers farm from the top of the (small) mountain (farm was about 10 or so miles as a crow flies from where the 911 plane went down). It’s a multigenerational thing now.
Between being picked to help shoot them off (out of a bottle) and sparklers we had a blast. Earning the right to help with the fireworks was an honor a few kids got each summer - the ones who had behaved the most, hadn’t shoved others into the lake off the dock nor tipped the rowboat over on purpose to get someone else wet who didn’t want to, didn’t lock anyone in the outhouse… (hmm bribery I think and we fell for it ). Then there was the campfire after that with flaming the marshmallows (by accident or on purpose) making s’mores… We had a lovely time each summer.
I tell you what. I’ll bring the makings for s’mores when you finally schedule the fireworks.
I will look forward to this event. If you invite others (well besides the fire department - well heck we can give some s’more makings to them too) let me know so I can bring enough sticks and supplies.
@Kidsandliz Nice story! We used to watch them at the county fair when we were kids before the area got to be an overpopulated suburb because more people like my family moved there after WWII. Now we watch the fireworks on a lake, but I’m about the only one who watches, but I don’t like the noise any more. And the are always about 2 months after the 4th! But they are fun.
Another vote for UPS’s.
All hook ups back there runs through a UPS. The TV itself is sitting inside a cabinet behind closed doors, as is the modem and the powered speakers connected to the TV. My Ooma and the wireless speaker transmitter used to live back there as well, but are now gone. The router sits on top of that cabinet, and below the cabinet is my wife’s desk which has a desktop, printer and monitor and the plug-in for her laptop and an electric pencil sharpener.
That TV is rarely turned on as we use our projector which is opposite the love seat/recliner. The TV gets used for the Xbox when the grandkids come.
Only the multi-plug surge protected power strip is plugged into the outlet behind the 10’ 500 lb sideboard. The 85” TV is mounted above the sideboard with cables in the wall and electrical outlet behind the TV. The multi-plug surge protected power strip has the modem, OTA TiVo, sound bar, DVD player plugged into it. Getting to all of these plugs is a challenge due to the aforementioned 10’ 500 lb.sideboard.
Two UPS units powering the TV, the switch, the DVD player, two devices behind the TV whose functionality I no longer recall, the sound bar, the extra lighting effects that never quite worked, a wifi repeater, an old phone charger that probably dates back to my Samsung S9, plus a power strip that has the color laser printer plugged into it (with one of the UPS units plugged into the strip.)
The thermal imaging camera says nothing back there is warmer than 86F (in a room temp of 78F).
It has been more than a year since the TV was last on.
The TV itself is plugged directly into the wall. Then there’s the multi plug power strip/ surge protector. Into the strip is a DVD player, XBox, Wii, PS4, receiver, tape deck, CD player and one open slot. This outlet runs on its own circuit on the panel .
@baqui63@cfg83
I totally understand that.
My wife has cut back her (already minimal) consumption since her breast cancer diagnosis last year. I probably drink no more than a few times a week if you count having a beer. Alcohol was always one of those things that we would collect when we traveled so I have a very eclectic selection of liquors/liqueurs in my bar. It’s fun to revisit those every now and then.
@baqui63@cfg83@chienfou I’ve been sampling some of the NA beers - some are meh, but a few offered by some my favorite breweries are almost indistinguishable from the w/alcohol versions and are quite tasty. Some current favorites:
Deschutes NA Black Butte Porter
Elysian Easy Dust IPA
Sierra Nevada Trail Pass IPA
10 Barrel Apocalypse Hop Burst NA IPA
@baqui63@cfg83@macromeh
Not a big IPA fan. We are working thru some NAs for her. No clear winner yet. Saw one at Aldi we plan to try when it’s back in stock…
While I’m fine with an IPA or even a “double IPA” I’m not a hop head. I tend to prefer Belgian ales and my go to beer at a pub, etc. is a black and tan with Guinness and Harp, tho I’m fine with other variations. If I’m getting a cocktail, a rye Manhattan or a dirty Beefeater martini are frequent choices.
In addition to brewing my own beers and making some wines (like watermelon, when I had 75 lbs of it that was going to go bad), I’ve also experimented with various ways of concentrating the ethanol content of things. For example, ordinary Yuengling yields a fantastic hazelnut whiskey when distilled and some of the crappy wines from meh have turned into serviceable brandies when force aged using hydrogen peroxide, wood chips and rapid heating and cooling cycles.
I have a friend, @publicart here on meh, who is into NA beers. He may be able to provide some alternatives for you to try and he might want to try some of the ones you mention.
@cfg83 You cannot see it in the “front” pic, but I added “stilts” to all of those cabinets and the couch so that the roombas can get under everything. The charging dock is under that cabinet and I rigged up a stick to allow me to manually push the go button, since neither of my roombas have any automation. I decided not to add a servo or other automated starting because cats puke.
I had to put up stuff from the cats going behind my TV and knocking things on the floor. I had one cable box with a splitter so it could go into two rooms -the bedroom and living room (I lived alone so no issue with that), a separate modum and router, a radio with a CD player, and then a power surge protector extension cord (that plugged into the wall). I finally bought a thing so that I could have 2 HDLM cords going to each TV from the single one coming out of the cable box so didn’t need the splitter for the cables any more. Then a lamp was nearby on an extension cord plugged into a box where I could remotely turn the light on and off and that was then plugged into the surge protector too.
Occasionally I had one or two cats back there at the same time (when they’d figure out how to push out the wood panels I had between the tv and wall to keep them out). They’d either chew on cords or freak out because I was telling them no in a threatening voice and stamping my feet and hissing at them. Of course the catch with that was they’d knock things over in a panic to get out there. And you know they knew they weren’t supposed to be there as they’d keep looking up to check on what I was doing and to see where I was. "
@f00l For a while, I used a semi-DIY TV recording system running BeyondTV. It had some nice features, including a commercial skip function that really worked quite well. Unfortunately after several years, they dropped support for their consumer product to focus on commercial applications.
Now I use NextPVR on a PC as a recording engine/server with a Raspberry Pi running Kodi for the TV display. Works pretty well, but not as convenient/smooth as BeyondTV was.
Now, if there only was more content worth watching…
My tv and my dvd player. I don’t do cable.
No TV, so nothing is plugged in behind it.
@heartny I concur! What is this weird “tee-vee” that they’re speaking of?
@heartny
Same. I haven’t had a TV since 2017.
@kittykat9180 Haven’t have a TV since 2013 when I kicked Cablevision to the curb after the transition to digital.
@heartny
I have never purchased a television in my life. The only reasons I’ve ever had a TV was because someone I lived with (family, roommate, boyfriend) had one.
@kittykat9180 I only had a TV because I had a friend who worked for Sony and he gave me his employee discount. This was before flat panels, so the thing weighed a ton and was not energy efficient.
My TV, my phone, my cable, my wifi, and all the poltergeist-sheltering equipment that goes with those.
@phendrick They’re here!
KuoH
@kuoh Sure enough!
(Wow, 44 years ago.)
There’s a lot of stuff plugged in near the TV, but the TV itself (and a small surge protector) are the only things plugged into the outlet immediately behind the TV. Our new house came with wall-mounting outlets.
Hmmm …
/showme Gremlin that lives on electricity is plugging its tail into wall outlet.
@cfg83 Here’s the image you requested for “Gremlin that lives on electricity is plugging its tail into wall outlet.”
Back in 2001, it was a TV and VCR (and it became “and stereo with 3 CD rotation” and game system and DVD and HDTV tuner and another game system)… And now add media server, router, and rotating external drive enclosure.
TV, modem, router, Blu-Ray player, VCR, laptop. No cable, no streaming box/sticks, watch everything through laptop.
Let me see-I may miss something. TV, cable box, router, amplifier-receiver, subwoofer, cd-dvd player, Google TV Streamer (replaced Chromecast). I may add more after I look at it later.
@andyw I can’t seem to edit my post, so I’ll reply to my own! Also plugged in is the ONT, which for those without fiber it is the Optical Network Terminal which converts the optical fiber signal to electrical that the modem and router can use. Actually, I think the modem is plugged into the outlet and the ONT is plugged into the modem.
@andyw You have the explosion scheduled for when? I want to come to watch the fireworks.
@Kidsandliz From your comments in the past, you seem like a nice person, so when it is scheduled I’ll drop you a line. Actually, most of them are low or very low wattage items. The amp-receiver could be more, but it usually runs at low-ish volumes. The subwoofer I’m not sure about, but is usually at low volumes and the rest are mostly like lightbulbs in terms of consumption, so you may not get an invite! (Thank goodness, especially as I am dealing with a probable busted circuit breaker on another, low amp, line and I am not relishing replacing it, even though “it is easy” as they say).
@andyw Hmm you might need to up the demand on the outlets so there is a spectacular show. And thank you for offering an invite. Unless you have a tele-transporter it might take me a while to get from here to you though so please be sure to time this firework event so I have enough time drive to see it.
I’ll be enjoying a show like this? Right?


@Kidsandliz I hope not! I’m working on the teleporter and it should be ready any century now. And I forgot something else-a Google mesh wi-fi device (also low wattage).
@andyw Well hunt for a time warp to speed that up please. I might get impatient.
@andyw added to the post and it said forbidden so I guess it took to long to edit. Here is the rest of it. Thank you the back button.
And I really, really like fireworks. On the 4th of July we’d shoot them off at my grandmothers farm from the top of the (small) mountain (farm was about 10 or so miles as a crow flies from where the 911 plane went down). It’s a multigenerational thing now.
Between being picked to help shoot them off (out of a bottle) and sparklers we had a blast. Earning the right to help with the fireworks was an honor a few kids got each summer - the ones who had behaved the most, hadn’t shoved others into the lake off the dock nor tipped the rowboat over on purpose to get someone else wet who didn’t want to, didn’t lock anyone in the outhouse… (hmm bribery I think and we fell for it
). Then there was the campfire after that with flaming the marshmallows (by accident or on purpose) making s’mores… We had a lovely time each summer.
I tell you what. I’ll bring the makings for s’mores when you finally schedule the fireworks.
I will look forward to this event. If you invite others (well besides the fire department - well heck we can give some s’more makings to them too) let me know so I can bring enough sticks and supplies.
@Kidsandliz Nice story! We used to watch them at the county fair when we were kids before the area got to be an overpopulated suburb because more people like my family moved there after WWII. Now we watch the fireworks on a lake, but I’m about the only one who watches, but I don’t like the noise any more. And the are always about 2 months after the 4th! But they are fun.
I don’t have a TV.
So much… TV, laptop, modem, router, Xbox, Nintendo Switch, Nintendo Wii U. The power company loves me.
Tv, surround sound, mini Lenovo Think Centre, PS4(and controllers), roku, wifi access point. I’m sure there more but can’t think.
I have a rather large UPS attached. Everything connects through that.
@emspace That is a good idea.
Another vote for UPS’s.
All hook ups back there runs through a UPS. The TV itself is sitting inside a cabinet behind closed doors, as is the modem and the powered speakers connected to the TV. My Ooma and the wireless speaker transmitter used to live back there as well, but are now gone. The router sits on top of that cabinet, and below the cabinet is my wife’s desk which has a desktop, printer and monitor and the plug-in for her laptop and an electric pencil sharpener.
That TV is rarely turned on as we use our projector which is opposite the love seat/recliner. The TV gets used for the Xbox when the grandkids come.
Only the multi-plug surge protected power strip is plugged into the outlet behind the 10’ 500 lb sideboard. The 85” TV is mounted above the sideboard with cables in the wall and electrical outlet behind the TV. The multi-plug surge protected power strip has the modem, OTA TiVo, sound bar, DVD player plugged into it. Getting to all of these plugs is a challenge due to the aforementioned 10’ 500 lb.sideboard.
Two UPS units powering the TV, the switch, the DVD player, two devices behind the TV whose functionality I no longer recall, the sound bar, the extra lighting effects that never quite worked, a wifi repeater, an old phone charger that probably dates back to my Samsung S9, plus a power strip that has the color laser printer plugged into it (with one of the UPS units plugged into the strip.)
The thermal imaging camera says nothing back there is warmer than 86F (in a room temp of 78F).
It has been more than a year since the TV was last on.
The TV itself is plugged directly into the wall. Then there’s the multi plug power strip/ surge protector. Into the strip is a DVD player, XBox, Wii, PS4, receiver, tape deck, CD player and one open slot. This outlet runs on its own circuit on the panel .
My TV, my Soundbar, a small form factor PC (which I mostly use to watch YouTube with an ad blocker on), and an XBox Series S game console.
They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so here’s a 2000 word essay on my TV and what lurks behind it:
@baqui63 Gorgeous! I like the Roomba “no go” flask on the desk. It’s important to keep the Roomba from vacuuming crap off your desk. I should know.
@baqui63 @cfg83
I was much more intrigued by the bar setup. Nice job, and some unusual selections there as well.
@cfg83 @chienfou A bit late on this reply, but life has been crazier than usual.
I collect things… not much of a drinker any longer, but I do like unusual things.
@baqui63 @cfg83
I totally understand that.
My wife has cut back her (already minimal) consumption since her breast cancer diagnosis last year. I probably drink no more than a few times a week if you count having a beer. Alcohol was always one of those things that we would collect when we traveled so I have a very eclectic selection of liquors/liqueurs in my bar. It’s fun to revisit those every now and then.
@baqui63 @cfg83 @chienfou I’ve been sampling some of the NA beers - some are meh, but a few offered by some my favorite breweries are almost indistinguishable from the w/alcohol versions and are quite tasty. Some current favorites:
Deschutes NA Black Butte Porter
Elysian Easy Dust IPA
Sierra Nevada Trail Pass IPA
10 Barrel Apocalypse Hop Burst NA IPA
@baqui63 @cfg83 @macromeh
Not a big IPA fan. We are working thru some NAs for her. No clear winner yet. Saw one at Aldi we plan to try when it’s back in stock…
@cfg83 @chienfou @macromeh
While I’m fine with an IPA or even a “double IPA” I’m not a hop head. I tend to prefer Belgian ales and my go to beer at a pub, etc. is a black and tan with Guinness and Harp, tho I’m fine with other variations. If I’m getting a cocktail, a rye Manhattan or a dirty Beefeater martini are frequent choices.
In addition to brewing my own beers and making some wines (like watermelon, when I had 75 lbs of it that was going to go bad), I’ve also experimented with various ways of concentrating the ethanol content of things. For example, ordinary Yuengling yields a fantastic hazelnut whiskey when distilled and some of the crappy wines from meh have turned into serviceable brandies when force aged using hydrogen peroxide, wood chips and rapid heating and cooling cycles.
I have a friend, @publicart here on meh, who is into NA beers. He may be able to provide some alternatives for you to try and he might want to try some of the ones you mention.
@cfg83 You cannot see it in the “front” pic, but I added “stilts” to all of those cabinets and the couch so that the roombas can get under everything. The charging dock is under that cabinet and I rigged up a stick to allow me to manually push the go button, since neither of my roombas have any automation. I decided not to add a servo or other automated starting because cats puke.
@baqui63 Most egg-salad! The iRobot folks should have gone into furniture design to make Roomba life better.
/showme Room of house with furniture elevated 6 inches off the floor so that 5 Roombas can happily clean every bit of the floor.
@cfg83 Here’s the image you requested for “Room of house with furniture elevated 6 inches off the floor so that 5 Roombas can happily clean …”
@mediocrebot Perfect! I should have said the Roombas were numbered, maybe a livery on them with ads like stock car racing.
I had to put up stuff from the cats going behind my TV and knocking things on the floor. I had one cable box with a splitter so it could go into two rooms -the bedroom and living room (I lived alone so no issue with that), a separate modum and router, a radio with a CD player, and then a power surge protector extension cord (that plugged into the wall). I finally bought a thing so that I could have 2 HDLM cords going to each TV from the single one coming out of the cable box so didn’t need the splitter for the cables any more. Then a lamp was nearby on an extension cord plugged into a box where I could remotely turn the light on and off and that was then plugged into the surge protector too.
Occasionally I had one or two cats back there at the same time (when they’d figure out how to push out the wood panels I had between the tv and wall to keep them out). They’d either chew on cords or freak out because I was telling them no in a threatening voice and stamping my feet and hissing at them. Of course the catch with that was they’d knock things over in a panic to get out there. And you know they knew they weren’t supposed to be there as they’d keep looking up to check on what I was doing and to see where I was. "
Was outfitting a new place about 15-20 years ago. Bought a couple of good deal and good enough for me TVs on Black Friday.
Two or three years later, they were still in the sealed boxes because I hadn’t bothered to set them up
I haven’t watched actual television in my own residence since data and cell data starting being reasonable speeds and since YouTube became a thing.
If I remember the last show, I watched relentlessly on an actual television was Buffy which I tivo’d.
So I gave them away since the families I knew it who could use a television or another television
/showme electronic dust bunnies
That’s what’s sparking up my unused electrical outlets these days
@f00l Here’s the image you requested for “electronic dust bunnies”
@f00l
TIVO really was the most wonderful thing for a short while. A few years.
At least, it was, for those of us who had our TV favs, or who wanted to watch or rewatch some special event on TV.
/giphy TIVO

@f00l For a while, I used a semi-DIY TV recording system running BeyondTV. It had some nice features, including a commercial skip function that really worked quite well. Unfortunately after several years, they dropped support for their consumer product to focus on commercial applications.
Now I use NextPVR on a PC as a recording engine/server with a Raspberry Pi running Kodi for the TV display. Works pretty well, but not as convenient/smooth as BeyondTV was.
Now, if there only was more content worth watching…