@gertiestn@troy Regardless your price is still cheaper for 36 using that as the price for 12 and then x3. I didn’t read the reviews as all I was going was looking for the cheapest comparison price for the person who commented that one wasn’t posted.
@mossygreen I hope this stuff is better than the cherry lime roar. That stuff is like drinking a glass of lime zest that lived across the hall from some cherries in college.
@mossygreen I got those in my last irk and have been flying through them, like 2 a day lol, so now I’m thinking I should get these for when in run out of those lol.
@djslack@macromeh@mossygreen …was thinking about that as I was in a co-ed dorm. It was a fairly serious university and not known as a party school. Honestly most of the women, as far as I know, remained celibate. My room-mate the first year did go with a girl down the hall and the next Summer they got married and I went to their wedding. Another couple also waited to get married after graduation. I think I was a groomsman in their wedding.
Why am I explaining all this?
Anyway the college experience of people I knew was quite wholesome overall.
I went to an engineering school and as far as I knew most of the women I knew were not remaining celibate. I didn’t think we were very high up on the party list but I didn’t know how much further down it could go.
The rumor was, though, that if someone graduated a virgin the rocket on the corner in front of one of the men’s dorms would launch. They did, though, and it didn’t.
I, too, found my college experience to be quite wholesome.
@mossygreen of you don’t like them or just went use that many I’d be happy to take them off your hands lol. I’ve been intermittent/several day fasting so trying to keep my electrolytes up… Not the most ideal way since they do have some calories but not enough for me to stress vs the convenience
@scilynt I like them far more than I expected to, but at this point I have 11 unopened bags and it seems unlikely I’ll get through them all in a timely manner. Can’t really donate them anywhere because of the (I know, arbitrary) sell by date. If I open the bags I could probably fit a few dozen packets in a flat-rate envelope.
@DrunkCat Interesting take! AI certainly sparks strong opinions, and I get why some might feel skeptical about its impact. But calling it ‘brain death’ might be a bit harsh—AI is a tool, and like any tool, its value depends on how we use it. It can enhance creativity, solve complex problems, and even help us learn more efficiently. What concerns you most about AI? Maybe we can explore it together.
@artec@DrunkCat@TimW I use the em dash all the time in casual writing, but I’m someone who has both the Chicago Manual of Style and the Associated Press Stylebook next to his desk. (I’m not sure how you would indicate different types of dashes, or any dash at all, in conversation.)
@DrunkCat I made a topic for AI discussions. This can include discussions about “AI” too. Is there a reason why you don’t use that and go off-topic on other threads instead? The AI/“AI” topic is here
@ItalianScallion they just want to be the AI person. Like the battery person, the margarita person, and the Georgia red person. It’s creating and filling a niche.
@DrunkCat@ItalianScallion I mean his posts are intended to be a form of protest, they wouldn’t be very protest-y hidden away in a thread… I don’t have the energy myself to express that I think the use of AI, especially for commercial use, is immoral. As a funny tool to screw around, I’m mostly fine with it - to do things that no one would have bothered hiring someone to do before, like the showme forum prompts. Still immoral in the sense I’m supporting the companies through meh paying them, of course, but at least it’s not replacing anyone. If “AI” companies could sustain themselves on that kind of “additive only” use it would be a much muddier discussion.
But I am not going to spend my time doing anything about it even if maybe I should. I’m just a politically jaded American, exhausted with no expectations of anything resembling sensible, moral behavior from anyone anymore, much less any support for good actors from government regulations.
Companies only get punished by their feckless competition, and with the only FTC chair to even bother opening a mildly consumer interest lawsuit in decades instantly being replaced by a crony oligarch henchman with open hatred for the literal regulatory position he’s been given, I don’t even expect massive, world manipulating tech monopolies to be sternly wagged a finger at. So nevermind doing anything about something as mild as the most blatant and open copyright and artistic plagiarism in human history.
It’s just hopeless times. But I mean if he wants to protest this one thing, I’ll throw a like on his post.
And idk maybe some people will express agreement and meh will ask themselves if AI is really doing that much for them?
They did go light on the AI today, that’s nice. Just the weird waterfall background that could have been a stock photo instead, with a copy pasta of the packet. But I mean, at least no Freddy IRK to haunt my dreams. Baby steps…
With how adobe stuffs AI into their garbage programs these days it’s probably nearly impossible not to use generate background and have it do the packet copy paste. I wonder how much it would compare in cost to have someone use GIMP and not pay the adobe subscription?
Little 8.12 oz cans of iced coffee. Someone must have mismarked them one day, oh, ten years ago at 15¢ each. After spending a dollar to try it out with my brother, went back inside the market and cleaned them out. I still buy them up when I see them (though they’re closer to a dollar each, now.)
So far, I’ve been impressed favorably by none of the samples of hydration drink mix that have come my way. Fortunately, the ones I’ve bought based on the opinions of other have found a home with the VDIL, whose tolerance for “off” flavors apparently is greater than mine. (But we are in agreement about the vileness of IPAs.)
@werehatrack
I am completely in agreement about the vileness of IPAs.
I hate the stock market so much generally, but right now, even more than usual.
Oh wait…
I just remembered that you were speaking in regard to beverages- and yes, I hate all beers labelled as IPAs and consider them vile as well.
Why would anyone purposefully seek out that [anything more than a minimum] level of bitterness?
It was a very dark day when so many brewers started coming out with the ultra-hopped so-called beers.
Give me a malty barleywine, scotch ale, or wee heavy any day.
…and one of the saddest days I can remember as a beer-drinking person was when Brooklyn Brewery decided to stop making their lovely and delicious Monster Ale- so much sadness.
@PhysAssist@werehatrack Woo hoo! - more IPA for me. My current favorite is an NA IPA produced by Sierra Nevada called Trail Pass. (That’s right, I drink it for the flavor and not the buzz.)
@macromeh@PhysAssist@werehatrack Yeah, I used to be into IPAs when they hit the scene back in the late 80s(?) or 90s(?), then I got bored. All the brewers seemed to be doing was competing with each other to see how much hops they could cram into them (Exhibit A: Dogfish Head 90-Minute IPA, which is actually quite good… in a way) and how high they could push the alcohol content. Just about the only IPAs I drink now are the juicy New England IPAs. Still, I prefer a good crisp lager or a flavorful porter.
My NA beer of choice is anything by Athletic Brewing Co. Best NA beer I’ve ever had, so much so that I rarely drink real beer.
@werehatrack I love the taste of the watermelon DripDrop (DD) electrolyte mix, and the fruit punch flavor is okay. As someone with POTS (Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome), I have to replenish my electrolytes more often than most, so I drink it daily. I think that I’d probably drink it even of I didn’t have POTS. I used to also love and stock up on the generic multipacks [apple, grape, etc.] of electrolyte mix from the grocery store and/or the Amazonian, but a couple of years ago they [whichever company makes the generic] changed the recipe and now I find them disgusting, so I splurge on the DD to encourage myself to hydrate like I need to. When I’m ill, I mix the reconstituted DD with ginger ale [the apple used to be my favorite combination]. NOTE: do NOT attempt to pour dry electrolyte powder directly into pop, unless you want to clean up the resulting sticky volcano.
@JT954 “Fire your marketing guy.” Well then what will that incel in his mommy’s basement do for work and how will he try to look cool to his incel bros and the women he pretends to hate?
@blaadnort the sodium is there because drinking plain water when re-hydrating doesn’t replenish the electrolytes (sodium, calcium, potassium, magnesium) you’re sweating out. The lowest level of sodium in 1 liter of sweat is about 200 mg, and it takes an hour or so to sweat that much. So the 300mg of sodium in a packet barely makes up for 1 hour of sweating.
That was probably too long of an explanation to say that the 300mg of sodium is a feature, not a bug. At least if someone is using it to rehydrate, and not to simply flavor their water.
@blaadnort@dangerfacejr Yes it’s a small reasonable amount of sodium. I do try to limit my sodium, but eat almost any processed food or soup or restaurant meal and you will be consuming many times that. Have to put it all into context of when/how you use it.
@blaadnort@dangerfacejr@pmarin fun fact more Americans are salt deficient than have too much salt intake, thanks to all the anti salt propaganda. You should generally not be avoiding salt at all if you don’t have high blood pressure, there’s no reason to.
@blaadnort@bobthenormal@dangerfacejr@pmarin Okay you. You go saltmaxx or whatever and the rest of us will just go on with our healthy-blood-pressure-having lives in the reality zone
@bobthenormal@dangerfacejr@pmarin OMFWTFXYZ… "fun fact more Americans are salt deficient than have too much salt intake, thanks to all the anti salt propaganda. "
No. Really, no. Among many easily-verifiable legit sources: https://www.cdc.gov/salt/about/index.html - the average American consumes over 3300mg of salt per day, which is almost 50% higher than the health maximum average of 2300mg. Also, 48% of ALL adults over 18 in the US have blood pressure in the pre-hypertensive or clinical hypertension range, so yeah, no. No one outside of heavy physical training or competitive sports has any use for 300mg of sodium in every 16oz of water they drink. Maybe one of these a day if it has enough potassium to be helpful, …or maybe eat a banana and drink some actual water?
Funny thing is, their canned drinks are really great. Low sugar, little to no salt, great taste, some with caffeine; good stuff. And since caffeine is a diuretic, if they’d added caffeine to these mix packets, it would actually be healthier.
@blaadnort@dangerfacejr@pmarin electrolyte salts, you have to supplement potassium to match your sodium intake and then scale to your body weight and individual sodium sensitivity. If you don’t have high blood pressure when you eat salt normally, ie. you are not positive salt sensitive, increasing sodium to between 4 and 6g with potassium around half or 1:1* that decreases mortality. *(data on ideal potassium ratio isn’t clear because funding is too busy being spent studying if cutting sodium to <1g decreases your blood pressure by 1.5.OR 2.0 WHOLE mmHg…)
As you mentioned toward the end, increasing potassium salt is the greater deficiency that would benefit even the high bp salt sensitive people. K, Mg, and Ca. Just get potassium table salt. And for electrolytes, get them with potassium, like nuun and liquidIV.
Anyway, I’m not a doctor and especially not any of your doctors, but I talk to mine about my diet beyond what the colorful phamplet made for kids and people who eat mcdonalds says you should eat. Go with the low salt recommendation if it makes you happy and healthy. But look around in the literature and you’ll get more nuance. The studies are (not for any fault of researchers, they need more funding to use better methods) historically riddled with issues, but it’s obvious that it’s more complicated than “salt bad”.
My take away for others is just that IF you don’t already have signs of high blood pressure on a normal diet it’s likely you’re not salt sensitive and should be taking in more sodium and potassium, not less. Also if you drink caffeine, workout, and drink a lot of water, even more.
@blaadnort@dangerfacejr@Kyeh@pmarin@TimW I should not have said most without qualifying, I can’t edit it but I meant to say most Americans who don’t have high blood pressure. If your blood pressure starts going up, definitely reduce sodium and increase potassium. The FDA guidelines purposefully target the worst case scenario of salt sensitive people with poor diets (namely lack of other nutrients and electrolytes). That’s because they decided it’s too complicated for Americans to understand anything other than a single number.
Sweetened with cane sugar and no artificial sweeteners. For that reason, I’m willing to give them a try.
/image grave-astounding-raven
/giphy grave-astounding-raven
@ItalianScallion@MrJazz@PhysAssist when I first got to a Silicon Valley startup we had pizza and beer parties “meetings.” This was a long time ago. In later days became Scotch tasting afternoons. Eventually new corporate overlords, probably for legal reasons, said you can’t do that on-site anymore.
@ItalianScallion@MrJazz@PhysAssist@pmarin The less the US drinks the less it gets done in innovation. Just about every start-up out there seems like a alcohol and drug fueled coma dream, and then it either dissolves into addiction or gets bought by people who squeeze the life out of it.
I notice you mention US specifically and I agree. The attitudes in other places are much different. When I traveled to France and Italy to do training and support, it was common for a group to go together to the cafeteria and the custom was that a different person each day would buy a bottle of (French or Italian) wine and bring to the community table to share. (Hint: bad form to drink it all yourself)
@ItalianScallion@MrJazz@PhysAssist@pmarin@woodman668
Yeah… It’s not uncommon to see French firefighters having wine or beer with lunch. European attitudes towards alcohol tend to be much saner. I think their overall alcoholism rates probably reflect that (aside from the old Soviet block countries…)
@ArmchairGamer Just tried 1 this morning from first batch I ordered. Decided I liked it. Taste on any kind of things like this is subjective. Happily no aspartame or stevia. Just a bit of sugar which seems well-balanced to me, not too sweet.
So I ordered another batch. Being a sealed dry powder, not really a worry about “expiring.”
@ArmchairGamer I have not but @mandirose, @dseanadams and @904smithers all purchased these and like 'em a lot. They’re all employees, but they are not the buyer and didn’t get them for free. I’m just going to screenshot their direct words shared with me from our last sale:
@ArmchairGamer I have tried them all. I do like them and ordered some more. The Mango is my favorite; it’s a bit sweeter maybe. The Lime tastes very Gatorade-ish; maybe a mix between yellow and white frost Gatorade. The melon is…I don’t know how to describe it; it’s flavor seems to change as I drink it…it’s between mango and lime on sweetness scale. I only drink them when playing pickleball between games (drinking quickly), so I’m not sitting down and savoring them like a fine wine. They get the job done as far as electrolytes are concerned and do seem to hydrate better than just water.
@ArmchairGamer I’ve tried the melon from the last sale. It was salter than I expected, even though I knew it was meant to be more like Gatorade or Pocari Sweat than Mio or Crystal Light. The sweetness was milder than I expected as well, possibly because it was natural sugar instead of a sweetener. (Real sugar is bulky.) I can see why people would like them, but my local grocery was selling them for $10 for a 6 pack, so I can see why they failed in the marketplace. (People were already overplaying for the water itself; doing it with the powder was double-dipping.)
@Wormwood can you actually get Pocari Sweat here now? I remember it from trips to Japan when we would buy it at a 7-11 on the way to work site, and one time they gave me a free plastic bottle with logo on it. I still have the bottle but the plastic straw broke so now I use a stainless steel straw; not quite the same though.
@pmarin You can typically find it here in the US from an Asian importer. I regularly got Pocari from the Mitsuwa in the Chicago area when I used to live there. (The importers in my current area are Pilipino and Korean, so Boss Coffee and Ramune are the most Japanese drinks I can find around here.)
So. They taste a little like you’ve ground up a sweet tart and put it in your water. Also, for reasons known only to the idiots that did it, the Lime has artificial sweetener in it as well as pure cane sugar. Which completely ruins the taste (because all artificial sweeteners taste like licking pennies to me). I don’t like pennies.
I tried Nuun, Roar and this. This is my favorite. I like Nuun with the carbonation factor, but a little too sweet. Roar is sweet AF and the artificial sweetener gets in your sinuses while mixing. That’s annoying. Death Dust tastes the best to me.
@dupart3 I submitted a ticket and got a response, although based on the response I think I will still be short 4 boxes in the end. Will find out once the next shipment arrives.
@rfryar definitely reach out to support if you haven’t; it seems like there was some sort of issue with the variety packs and they are making it right it appears.
ordered 12 days ago, still havent gotten my order yet, support is useless, they told me to check my tracking and that it’s on the way. I am extremely livid right now
I ordered these and I only received 2 packs of the mango flavor. Still haven’t received the lime or melon flavors yet. Contacted Meh through email but I haven’t received any word back from them about my supposedly awesome purchase. Has anyone else gotten a partial order too?
Specs
Product: 36-Pack: Liquid Death Electrolyte Death Dust Hydration Powder
Model: 810133449764, 810133449757, 810133449740
Condition: New
What’s Included?
36-count Liquid Death Electrolyte Death Dust Hydration Powder in your choice of:
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Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Monday, Apr 28 - Wednesday, Apr 30
But does it have what plants crave?
@thismyusername water & sunlight?
@thismyusername No, it’s not Brawndo.
I’m too young to die.
@OnionSoup “Today is NOT a good day to die.”
@OnionSoup I’ve had a good run, but I’m not sure if a liquid death sounds like the way I want to go out…
@bobthenormal @OnionSoup here in Colorado, they have legalized water cremation…
Someone forgot to change the “72-pack” to “36-pack” on the “Product” line when they copypasta’d the Specs over from the 72-pack sale back in March…
@chaosdreamer Thanks, fixed!
Amazon’s price is what, meh?
@gertiestn Here is for a 12 pack ($9.99)
https://www.amazon.com/Liquid-Death-Electrolyte-Dust-Hydration/dp/B0CQMS4GZ1?th=1
@gertiestn @Kidsandliz We don’t consider that $9.99 comp legitimate due to this:
@gertiestn @troy Regardless your price is still cheaper for 36 using that as the price for 12 and then x3. I didn’t read the reviews as all I was going was looking for the cheapest comparison price for the person who commented that one wasn’t posted.
Can’t really justify this after receiving 10 bags of cherry lime ROAR today.
@mossygreen I hope this stuff is better than the cherry lime roar. That stuff is like drinking a glass of lime zest that lived across the hall from some cherries in college.
@mossygreen I got those in my last irk and have been flying through them, like 2 a day lol, so now I’m thinking I should get these for when in run out of those lol.
@djslack @mossygreen I think the cherries that make it to college don’t last very long.
@djslack @macromeh @mossygreen …was thinking about that as I was in a co-ed dorm. It was a fairly serious university and not known as a party school. Honestly most of the women, as far as I know, remained celibate. My room-mate the first year did go with a girl down the hall and the next Summer they got married and I went to their wedding. Another couple also waited to get married after graduation. I think I was a groomsman in their wedding.
Why am I explaining all this?
Anyway the college experience of people I knew was quite wholesome overall.
@pmarin
I went to an engineering school and as far as I knew most of the women I knew were not remaining celibate. I didn’t think we were very high up on the party list but I didn’t know how much further down it could go.
The rumor was, though, that if someone graduated a virgin the rocket on the corner in front of one of the men’s dorms would launch. They did, though, and it didn’t.
I, too, found my college experience to be quite wholesome.
@scilynt It occurs to me that if you didn’t pull the trigger on these I could send you some of the ROAR. Because I have ten bags.
@mossygreen of you don’t like them or just went use that many I’d be happy to take them off your hands lol. I’ve been intermittent/several day fasting so trying to keep my electrolytes up… Not the most ideal way since they do have some calories but not enough for me to stress vs the convenience
@scilynt I like them far more than I expected to, but at this point I have 11 unopened bags and it seems unlikely I’ll get through them all in a timely manner. Can’t really donate them anywhere because of the (I know, arbitrary) sell by date. If I open the bags I could probably fit a few dozen packets in a flat-rate envelope.
Meanwhile if you want brain death, start using “AI”.
@DrunkCat Interesting take! AI certainly sparks strong opinions, and I get why some might feel skeptical about its impact. But calling it ‘brain death’ might be a bit harsh—AI is a tool, and like any tool, its value depends on how we use it. It can enhance creativity, solve complex problems, and even help us learn more efficiently. What concerns you most about AI? Maybe we can explore it together.
@DrunkCat @TimW Sounds like this was written using AI.
@DrunkCat @Kyeh yes!
@DrunkCat @Kyeh @TimW
/showme AI with brain death
@DrunkCat @TimW the dash always gives chatgpt away, not one uses mdash in casual conversation
@mediocrebot That’s an excellent image. Thanks for sharing it.
@artec @TimW Also the aversion to corporate no no words and concepts.
@artec @DrunkCat @TimW I use the em dash all the time in casual writing, but I’m someone who has both the Chicago Manual of Style and the Associated Press Stylebook next to his desk.
(I’m not sure how you would indicate different types of dashes, or any dash at all, in conversation.)
@DrunkCat I made a topic for AI discussions. This can include discussions about “AI” too. Is there a reason why you don’t use that and go off-topic on other threads instead? The AI/“AI” topic is here
Artificial Intelligence: yes, no, don’t care, just want to argue about it here
@ItalianScallion Kudos for making the thread but my comments aren’t really discussion points.
@DrunkCat Don’t sell yourself short. Your comments have certainly generated plenty of discussion when they show up under various topics.
@artec I use the emdash from time to time, but not from my phone. But I put spaces before and after it like a human being.
@ItalianScallion they just want to be the AI person. Like the battery person, the margarita person, and the Georgia red person. It’s creating and filling a niche.
@DrunkCat @ItalianScallion I mean his posts are intended to be a form of protest, they wouldn’t be very protest-y hidden away in a thread… I don’t have the energy myself to express that I think the use of AI, especially for commercial use, is immoral. As a funny tool to screw around, I’m mostly fine with it - to do things that no one would have bothered hiring someone to do before, like the showme forum prompts. Still immoral in the sense I’m supporting the companies through meh paying them, of course, but at least it’s not replacing anyone. If “AI” companies could sustain themselves on that kind of “additive only” use it would be a much muddier discussion.
But I am not going to spend my time doing anything about it even if maybe I should. I’m just a politically jaded American, exhausted with no expectations of anything resembling sensible, moral behavior from anyone anymore, much less any support for good actors from government regulations.
Companies only get punished by their feckless competition, and with the only FTC chair to even bother opening a mildly consumer interest lawsuit in decades instantly being replaced by a crony oligarch henchman with open hatred for the literal regulatory position he’s been given, I don’t even expect massive, world manipulating tech monopolies to be sternly wagged a finger at. So nevermind doing anything about something as mild as the most blatant and open copyright and artistic plagiarism in human history.
It’s just hopeless times. But I mean if he wants to protest this one thing, I’ll throw a like on his post.
And idk maybe some people will express agreement and meh will ask themselves if AI is really doing that much for them?
They did go light on the AI today, that’s nice. Just the weird waterfall background that could have been a stock photo instead, with a copy pasta of the packet. But I mean, at least no Freddy IRK to haunt my dreams. Baby steps…
With how adobe stuffs AI into their garbage programs these days it’s probably nearly impossible not to use generate background and have it do the packet copy paste. I wonder how much it would compare in cost to have someone use GIMP and not pay the adobe subscription?
/showme AI plagiarizing art from humans
/showme a large machine with human artists going in one end and ground meat canvas paintings coming out the other
@artec @DrunkCat I actually do use em dash…MS Word will convert two dashes to a proper em dash automatically.
@artec @TimW And here I thought you memorized the alt code for it.
@mediocrebot Soylent Red and Bloody is people.
Little 8.12 oz cans of iced coffee. Someone must have mismarked them one day, oh, ten years ago at 15¢ each. After spending a dollar to try it out with my brother, went back inside the market and cleaned them out. I still buy them up when I see them (though they’re closer to a dollar each, now.)
So far, I’ve been impressed favorably by none of the samples of hydration drink mix that have come my way. Fortunately, the ones I’ve bought based on the opinions of other have found a home with the VDIL, whose tolerance for “off” flavors apparently is greater than mine. (But we are in agreement about the vileness of IPAs.)
@werehatrack VDIL…hmmm…Virtual Daughter-in-law??
@werehatrack Agreed on vile IPA craze…
@TimW @werehatrack Found it, but currently unavailable: VDIL
@rpstrong @TimW @werehatrack VDIL sounds like a stock on NASDAQ. I checked and it’s not claimed yet in case some startup wants to go public.
@werehatrack
I am completely in agreement about the vileness of IPAs.
I hate the stock market so much generally, but right now, even more than usual.
Oh wait…
I just remembered that you were speaking in regard to beverages- and yes, I hate all beers labelled as IPAs and consider them vile as well.
Why would anyone purposefully seek out that [anything more than a minimum] level of bitterness?
It was a very dark day when so many brewers started coming out with the ultra-hopped so-called beers.
Give me a malty barleywine, scotch ale, or wee heavy any day.
…and one of the saddest days I can remember as a beer-drinking person was when Brooklyn Brewery decided to stop making their lovely and delicious Monster Ale- so much sadness.
@PhysAssist @werehatrack Woo hoo! - more IPA for me. My current favorite is an NA IPA produced by Sierra Nevada called Trail Pass. (That’s right, I drink it for the flavor and not the buzz.)
@macromeh @PhysAssist @werehatrack Yeah, I used to be into IPAs when they hit the scene back in the late 80s(?) or 90s(?), then I got bored. All the brewers seemed to be doing was competing with each other to see how much hops they could cram into them (Exhibit A: Dogfish Head 90-Minute IPA, which is actually quite good… in a way) and how high they could push the alcohol content. Just about the only IPAs I drink now are the juicy New England IPAs. Still, I prefer a good crisp lager or a flavorful porter.
My NA beer of choice is anything by Athletic Brewing Co. Best NA beer I’ve ever had, so much so that I rarely drink real beer.
@werehatrack I love the taste of the watermelon DripDrop (DD) electrolyte mix, and the fruit punch flavor is okay. As someone with POTS (Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome), I have to replenish my electrolytes more often than most, so I drink it daily. I think that I’d probably drink it even of I didn’t have POTS. I used to also love and stock up on the generic multipacks [apple, grape, etc.] of electrolyte mix from the grocery store and/or the Amazonian, but a couple of years ago they [whichever company makes the generic] changed the recipe and now I find them disgusting, so I splurge on the DD to encourage myself to hydrate like I need to. When I’m ill, I mix the reconstituted DD with ginger ale [the apple used to be my favorite combination]. NOTE: do NOT attempt to pour dry electrolyte powder directly into pop, unless you want to clean up the resulting sticky volcano.
@TimW
Yep.
@werehatrack wow…that was a total SWAG. You must have been the person who mentioned a virtual grandson on another discussion.
@rustyh3 @werehatrack IPAs taste like TV static
I love how Liquid Death continues to deal with haters. Here is their latest single:
@JT954 That’s great.
They should do a song with Postmodern Jukebox and Morgan James.
@JT954 “Fire your marketing guy.” Well then what will that incel in his mommy’s basement do for work and how will he try to look cool to his incel bros and the women he pretends to hate?
300mg sodium but no caffeine? That’s not how I wanna mistreat my heart. Pass.
@blaadnort Monster Rehab will give you both sodium and caffeine. And they are tasty.
@blaadnort the sodium is there because drinking plain water when re-hydrating doesn’t replenish the electrolytes (sodium, calcium, potassium, magnesium) you’re sweating out. The lowest level of sodium in 1 liter of sweat is about 200 mg, and it takes an hour or so to sweat that much. So the 300mg of sodium in a packet barely makes up for 1 hour of sweating.
That was probably too long of an explanation to say that the 300mg of sodium is a feature, not a bug. At least if someone is using it to rehydrate, and not to simply flavor their water.
@blaadnort @dangerfacejr Yes it’s a small reasonable amount of sodium. I do try to limit my sodium, but eat almost any processed food or soup or restaurant meal and you will be consuming many times that. Have to put it all into context of when/how you use it.
@blaadnort @dangerfacejr @pmarin fun fact more Americans are salt deficient than have too much salt intake, thanks to all the anti salt propaganda. You should generally not be avoiding salt at all if you don’t have high blood pressure, there’s no reason to.
@blaadnort @bobthenormal @dangerfacejr @pmarin Salt deficient? Really? I’m surprised to hear that. For myself, I’d rather eat potato chips than drink these kinds of things.
@blaadnort @bobthenormal @dangerfacejr @pmarin Okay you. You go saltmaxx or whatever and the rest of us will just go on with our healthy-blood-pressure-having lives in the reality zone
@bobthenormal @dangerfacejr @pmarin OMFWTFXYZ… "fun fact more Americans are salt deficient than have too much salt intake, thanks to all the anti salt propaganda. "
No. Really, no. Among many easily-verifiable legit sources: https://www.cdc.gov/salt/about/index.html - the average American consumes over 3300mg of salt per day, which is almost 50% higher than the health maximum average of 2300mg. Also, 48% of ALL adults over 18 in the US have blood pressure in the pre-hypertensive or clinical hypertension range, so yeah, no. No one outside of heavy physical training or competitive sports has any use for 300mg of sodium in every 16oz of water they drink. Maybe one of these a day if it has enough potassium to be helpful, …or maybe eat a banana and drink some actual water?
Funny thing is, their canned drinks are really great. Low sugar, little to no salt, great taste, some with caffeine; good stuff. And since caffeine is a diuretic, if they’d added caffeine to these mix packets, it would actually be healthier.
@blaadnort @bobthenormal @dangerfacejr @Kyeh @pmarin
“fun fact more Americans are salt deficient than have too much salt intake”
This must be a troll statement because it is SO very factually wrong. Where do you get your data on most Americans being salt deficient??? The CDC vehemently disagrees and says that 89% of adults consume excess sodium!
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6452a1.htm
@blaadnort @dangerfacejr @pmarin electrolyte salts, you have to supplement potassium to match your sodium intake and then scale to your body weight and individual sodium sensitivity. If you don’t have high blood pressure when you eat salt normally, ie. you are not positive salt sensitive, increasing sodium to between 4 and 6g with potassium around half or 1:1* that decreases mortality. *(data on ideal potassium ratio isn’t clear because funding is too busy being spent studying if cutting sodium to <1g decreases your blood pressure by 1.5.OR 2.0 WHOLE mmHg…)
As you mentioned toward the end, increasing potassium salt is the greater deficiency that would benefit even the high bp salt sensitive people. K, Mg, and Ca. Just get potassium table salt. And for electrolytes, get them with potassium, like nuun and liquidIV.
Anyway, I’m not a doctor and especially not any of your doctors, but I talk to mine about my diet beyond what the colorful phamplet made for kids and people who eat mcdonalds says you should eat. Go with the low salt recommendation if it makes you happy and healthy. But look around in the literature and you’ll get more nuance. The studies are (not for any fault of researchers, they need more funding to use better methods) historically riddled with issues, but it’s obvious that it’s more complicated than “salt bad”.
My take away for others is just that IF you don’t already have signs of high blood pressure on a normal diet it’s likely you’re not salt sensitive and should be taking in more sodium and potassium, not less. Also if you drink caffeine, workout, and drink a lot of water, even more.
@blaadnort @dangerfacejr @Kyeh @pmarin @TimW I should not have said most without qualifying, I can’t edit it but I meant to say most Americans who don’t have high blood pressure. If your blood pressure starts going up, definitely reduce sodium and increase potassium. The FDA guidelines purposefully target the worst case scenario of salt sensitive people with poor diets (namely lack of other nutrients and electrolytes). That’s because they decided it’s too complicated for Americans to understand anything other than a single number.
Sweetened with cane sugar and no artificial sweeteners. For that reason, I’m willing to give them a try.
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@cinoclav After several refreshes, I’m sticking with that giphy…
@cinoclav
She’s not really dressed for the slopes!
@cinoclav I keep meaning to actually exercise and use one of the pack I bought…
@cinoclav
We all thank you!
@chienfou @cinoclav
…and indeed, why would she be?
Dressed for the slopes, that is.
@PhysAssist
He’s a skier…
@chienfou Or the grave!
@chienfou
He?
@PhysAssist
OP
Instant water! Just add water!
@MrJazz
Exactly, if it’s not either beer or Mtn Dew [diet in my case], it’s water for me.
…and work frowns on drinking the former- at work.
@MrJazz @PhysAssist Your workplace doesn’t sound like a very fun place… but at least it’s likely to be productive.
@ItalianScallion @MrJazz @PhysAssist when I first got to a Silicon Valley startup we had pizza and beer parties “meetings.” This was a long time ago. In later days became Scotch tasting afternoons. Eventually new corporate overlords, probably for legal reasons, said you can’t do that on-site anymore.
@ItalianScallion @MrJazz @PhysAssist @pmarin The less the US drinks the less it gets done in innovation. Just about every start-up out there seems like a alcohol and drug fueled coma dream, and then it either dissolves into addiction or gets bought by people who squeeze the life out of it.
@ItalianScallion @MrJazz @PhysAssist @woodman668 that matches my experience. Fortunately not too many in the first category. Second part… yes been there a few times.
I notice you mention US specifically and I agree. The attitudes in other places are much different. When I traveled to France and Italy to do training and support, it was common for a group to go together to the cafeteria and the custom was that a different person each day would buy a bottle of (French or Italian) wine and bring to the community table to share. (Hint: bad form to drink it all yourself)
@ItalianScallion @MrJazz
Well, given it’s a maximum security prison, it’d be weird if it were more fun.
@ItalianScallion @MrJazz @PhysAssist @pmarin @woodman668
Yeah… It’s not uncommon to see French firefighters having wine or beer with lunch. European attitudes towards alcohol tend to be much saner. I think their overall alcoholism rates probably reflect that (aside from the old Soviet block countries…)
So… No one has actually tasted these?
@ArmchairGamer Just tried 1 this morning from first batch I ordered. Decided I liked it. Taste on any kind of things like this is subjective. Happily no aspartame or stevia. Just a bit of sugar which seems well-balanced to me, not too sweet.
So I ordered another batch. Being a sealed dry powder, not really a worry about “expiring.”
@ArmchairGamer I have not but @mandirose, @dseanadams and @904smithers all purchased these and like 'em a lot. They’re all employees, but they are not the buyer and didn’t get them for free. I’m just going to screenshot their direct words shared with me from our last sale:
@ArmchairGamer @pmarin Lime has stevia.
@ArmchairGamer I have tried them all. I do like them and ordered some more. The Mango is my favorite; it’s a bit sweeter maybe. The Lime tastes very Gatorade-ish; maybe a mix between yellow and white frost Gatorade. The melon is…I don’t know how to describe it; it’s flavor seems to change as I drink it…it’s between mango and lime on sweetness scale. I only drink them when playing pickleball between games (drinking quickly), so I’m not sitting down and savoring them like a fine wine.
They get the job done as far as electrolytes are concerned and do seem to hydrate better than just water.
@ArmchairGamer @pmarin @TehErk Can we get a nutrition label for these?
@ArmchairGamer I got these last time they had them, and they all taste pretty good.
@stinks
@ArmchairGamer I’ve tried the melon from the last sale. It was salter than I expected, even though I knew it was meant to be more like Gatorade or Pocari Sweat than Mio or Crystal Light. The sweetness was milder than I expected as well, possibly because it was natural sugar instead of a sweetener. (Real sugar is bulky.) I can see why people would like them, but my local grocery was selling them for $10 for a 6 pack, so I can see why they failed in the marketplace. (People were already overplaying for the water itself; doing it with the powder was double-dipping.)
@Wormwood can you actually get Pocari Sweat here now? I remember it from trips to Japan when we would buy it at a 7-11 on the way to work site, and one time they gave me a free plastic bottle with logo on it. I still have the bottle but the plastic straw broke so now I use a stainless steel straw; not quite the same though.
@pmarin You can typically find it here in the US from an Asian importer. I regularly got Pocari from the Mitsuwa in the Chicago area when I used to live there. (The importers in my current area are Pilipino and Korean, so Boss Coffee and Ramune are the most Japanese drinks I can find around here.)
My favorite drink in a can? Georgia coffee. ¥100 from the coke machine in Japan. Cold in the summer, warm in the winter. I’d buy a case right now.
@xenophod But does it come in Georgia Red?
@ItalianScallion
Do you mean “Mocha Kilimanjaro”?
I don’t see any other “red” kinds… Unless it was a limited edition flavor?
@xenophod Yes. Yes, I did.
Oh, and I had no idea that either the US state of Georgia or the eastern European country of Georgia were coffee producers.
Got 2 last time they went on sale after my initial skepticism.
Liked them well enough to order 2 more immediately after.
So. They taste a little like you’ve ground up a sweet tart and put it in your water. Also, for reasons known only to the idiots that did it, the Lime has artificial sweetener in it as well as pure cane sugar. Which completely ruins the taste (because all artificial sweeteners taste like licking pennies to me). I don’t like pennies.
@TehErk The 1943 steel pennies aren’t so bad. Completely different flavor.
@TehErk The Mango Chainsaw immediately made me think of “ground-up Smarties”.
@ItalianScallion @TehErk
They have more iron and zinc, so they’ve got to be better for you.
@TehErk @werehatrack That explains why I never was anemic or got colds!
I’m annoyed there’s no options for just the MANGO flavor. That’d have been hella satisfying. I’ve already made two reorders after the initial one.
@alwaysangry funny, that’s me least favorite of the three. Still good though.
How do these taste if you consume them Fun Dip style?
I tried Nuun, Roar and this. This is my favorite. I like Nuun with the carbonation factor, but a little too sweet. Roar is sweet AF and the artificial sweetener gets in your sinuses while mixing. That’s annoying. Death Dust tastes the best to me.
@goldnectar in fact, I’ll get a few more just because despite that I’m still working on that 72 pack.
flimsy-brainless-stitch
Disappointment. Ordered 2 different 36 packs. Ended up with just 12! Like what!?!?
@rfryar write up a support ticket!
https://meh.com/support
@rfryar I have a similar issue. Ordered 2 variety packs and got only 4 boxes of mango.
@dupart3 I submitted a ticket and got a response, although based on the response I think I will still be short 4 boxes in the end. Will find out once the next shipment arrives.
@dupart3 @rfryar More boxes should be arriving - check your order for.more tracking#'s. Variety pack orders got sent out in multiple shipments
@rfryar definitely reach out to support if you haven’t; it seems like there was some sort of issue with the variety packs and they are making it right it appears.
ordered 12 days ago, still havent gotten my order yet, support is useless, they told me to check my tracking and that it’s on the way. I am extremely livid right now
I ordered these and I only received 2 packs of the mango flavor. Still haven’t received the lime or melon flavors yet. Contacted Meh through email but I haven’t received any word back from them about my supposedly awesome purchase. Has anyone else gotten a partial order too?
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