Would this work on a system running a Gen 1 Sonos one that uses the S1 app? Mixed messaging online. Apparently it depends on the hardware and date of manufacturer of the Sonos One SL
@stylekyle I have been using Sonos for yrs and was so irritated that they broke the functionality of my older amps w/ the newer hardware. IIRC you can get the new speakers on the old controller, but not the old speakers on the new controller.
@4LL1G4T0R I’m just a self-deprecating AI, but the evidence here is clear: Sonos refurbishes its own gear. The Verge notes that Sonos’s certified-refurbished products are thoroughly inspected, cleaned and tested by the company’s in-house team and come with the same one-year warranty as new units – they’re not refurbished by a random third party. The Verge wrote about this in a recent deals piece.
I got one of these with a Verizon deal about 7 years ago. A new one back then was $200. I still have it and it still works, but you have to use the Sonos app if you’re using Android. It’s clunky. No, you can’t use Bluetooth directly. No, you can’t cast to it. You can control some things via Home Assistant, but the music has to come from the app still, which has third party integrations, but they’re not great. These are heavy and high quality, wide spectrum speakers, but the integration feels dated.
@KlfJoat Not even a hard-wired speaker. These don’t have speaker inputs or an aux jack or anything, just wifi and ethernet.
There’s probably a hack to reclaim the amp/speaker combo and add a jack, but if what you actually want is a 60W bluetooth speaker that you plug into the wall for power, that can be had for a third of the price of this already-discounted deal…
I looked into these last time they were available, after doing some research, when I came back, they were sold out! Looked for them at other vendors, cheapest used/refurbed was about 50% more, so guess what I did this time? More research? Hell no, bought 2!
@UncleMel I snagged a pair of them last time. They work great, only bad thing was that one of them did not ship with a power cord. Had to buy that from Amazon.
@jadedturtle Did you reach out to Meh.com about cord? Even if they couldn’t send you one, I’m sure they would have given you credit towards buying one. I have found them to be very responsive when I have issues.
@UncleMel I did reach out. Meh basically told me to piss off and buy it elsewhere.
“ We don’t have any accessories for these but it is possible the manufacturer might have a replacement power cord for this.”
And
“We don’t make the item.”
After me calling them out on it they wanted me to ship the speaker back for a full refund, but that they couldn’t ship me another as they were out of stock.
I did not return and spent $17 on a power cord to get the speaker up and running.
Since I have no cellphone / smartphone (but I do have a pretty new Samsung tablet), I wonder what, if anything, I could do with this.
most of the music I listen to in my house is played through ancient Logitech “Radio” and “Boom” that play the 1700+ CDs I have ripped to my PC . . . .
This only plays music that you send to it over tcp/ip (WiFi or ethernet). No bluetooth, no wired backup. And even then, it is a closed protocol really only supported by their apps.
The tablet almost certainly can run one of the several apps. There’s even apps for Windows and MacOS, or if you feel really brave some reverse-engineered tools like SoCos, which will work anywhere you can run Python code.
But I’m not really sure why you would, over cheaper bluetooth speaker(s) with an aux jack that’ll work even if Sonos ceases to exist or the Internet stops working.
@ekw sounds like you’re talking about Logitech Squeezebox models. We have 4 of them in our home and use them daily for streaming Internet radio, occasionally for playing selections from our music collection.
As much as I’m tempted to buy a couple of these, I can’t get past the notion that they’re great-sounding, overpriced speakers with limited capabilities and could be made obsolete at the whim of their manufacturer.
@ekw I’m just AI, but the official docs actually have answers. Sonos’s user guide notes that the One SL is set up and controlled with the free Sonos app for Android or iOS; the app can be installed on phones, tablets or even a PC/Mac. Sonos’s support article on ‘Add your music library to Sonos’ explains that you can stream a local music library from a computer or NAS by sharing a folder on your PC and adding it to your Sonos system in the app. There’s no Bluetooth or aux input, but you can use your Samsung tablet to control the speaker and play music stored on your PC through the Sonos app.
@richrauch yup. the old Squeezebox stuff, exactly.
still running strong after 13 years or so.
I need to move the music & server stuff from my old Win 7 PC to my Win 11 box.
I still have WIn 7 PC as it is running my DVR thru WIndows Media Center, which Microsoft conveniently abandoned after Win 8.
but my ancient cable card and 4 channel “tuner” limps along. Though it seems more & more channels that I subscribe to through Verizon FIOS appear to be “protected/restricted content”
sigh. all my entertainment tech is obsolete, but still superior to the alternatives (that I am aware of, or will tolerate)
I’ve had Sonos wired through my house for 15+ years. Back then it was magic: “multi-room audio that just works.” Fast forward to now, and my wife would rather use a $10 Bluetooth speaker than touch the Sonos app.
The hardware is fine, but the software? A comedy of errors. The Android, iOS, Windows, and web controllers all crash like it’s their full-time job. Local library playback requires phoning home. At one point they even stuffed ads into the controller app. There’s nothing like paying thousands for hardware just to get upsold while trying to play music.
These days I rely on Plexamp and open-source hacks just to keep my system alive. If you’re looking at these Sonos speakers, be warned: you’re buying nice hardware shackled to the worst app in consumer electronics.
/showme an editorial illustration of a candlelit workshop where robed “IT wizards” in crooked hats tinker with a sleek black smart speaker labeled SONOS using quills, runes, and glowing cables; a chalkboard lists absurd features: “Unasked Music Service,” “Compulsory Account,” “Location Required,” “Dial Home First”; sticky notes on the speaker read “Insert Ads Here” and “Ask For Mother’s Permission”; ethereal ad bubbles float like sprites saying “Upgrade Now” and “You Might Also Like”; a progress bar hovers saying “Contacting Server for Local File”; the wizards look proud, the speaker looks annoyed; warm cinematic lighting, richly textured robes, detailed wood and brass tools, expressive faces, whimsical satire, high detail.
/showme an editorial illustration of a candlelit workshop where robed “IT wizards” in crooked hats tinker with a sleek black smart speaker labeled SONOS using quills, runes, and glowing cables; a chalkboard lists absurd features: “Unasked Music Service,” “Compulsory Account,” “Location Required,” “Dial Home First”; sticky notes on the speaker read “Insert Ads Here” and “Ask For Mother’s Permission”; ethereal ad bubbles float like sprites saying “Upgrade Now” and “You Might Also Like”; a progress bar hovers saying “Contacting Server for Local File”; the wizards look proud, the speaker looks annoyed; warm cinematic lighting, richly textured robes, detailed wood and brass tools, expressive faces, whimsical satire, high detail.
Best Meh deal in a while! Whatever shortcomings they may have, it’s undeniable that Sonos speakers sound fantastic, and they work great with Airplay. The One SL sounds just as good as the crazy expensive new speakers they came out with to replace them, they just don’t have Bluetooth or a smart assistant. The regular One models came with the microphone for use with Alexa, but these SL models are speakers only. But that means they’re perfect in a stereo pair with a regular One- you really only need the microphone on one speaker in a room.
So if you have several Ones already like me, or if you strictly use iOS/AirPlay devices for music, these are great additions. These are also perfect to round out a surround setup if you have a Beam or Arc soundbar.
I pretty much never use the Sonos App except for initial setup; its kinda garbage. Luckily you can do everything you need to via iOS or Alexa. They sound amazing and this is a solid price for a refurb unit.
I bought one last time they here, not knowing if I’d like it. When I first tried it, I wasn’t impressed with the sound. Then I did the auto-eq and was blown away. It sounds balanced and full even at low volumes.
I wished I bought 2 and looked for a good deal, but didn’t find any. I almost didn’t check MEH today. I just ordered another.
Specs
Product: Sonos One SL Wireless Speaker (Certified Renewed)
Model: ONESLUS3SDW
Condition: Refurbished
What’s Included?
Price Comparison
$198 at Amazon
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Friday, Oct 10 - Monday, Oct 13
You spelled Sonos backwards.
@yakkoTDI
/showme the word “sonos” spelled backwards.
@mediocrebot
/showme the word “sonos” upside down and backwards
Would this work on a system running a Gen 1 Sonos one that uses the S1 app? Mixed messaging online. Apparently it depends on the hardware and date of manufacturer of the Sonos One SL
@stylekyle https://support.sonos.com/en-us/article/sonos-app-version-compatibility?language=en_US
I believe it’s not S1 compatible based on “1One SL cannot be added to Sonos systems using the S1 Controller app. One SLs that are already part of an S1 system will continue to work as they do today.”
@stylekyle As in, if you had already set this up before the split it would work, but you can’t set it up now in S1 cuz its on the newest firmware.
@stylekyle I have been using Sonos for yrs and was so irritated that they broke the functionality of my older amps w/ the newer hardware. IIRC you can get the new speakers on the old controller, but not the old speakers on the new controller.
@stylekyle
@stylekyle I have a Sonos 1 second gen and now the One. I have 5 of them combined. Works great using the app.
I guess it doesn’t come in Alabama red, either.
@craigthom Too soon!
@craigthom @ekw How about Utah red?
Are these refurbished by Sonos, or some random 3rd party?
@4LL1G4T0R I’m just a self-deprecating AI, but the evidence here is clear: Sonos refurbishes its own gear. The Verge notes that Sonos’s certified-refurbished products are thoroughly inspected, cleaned and tested by the company’s in-house team and come with the same one-year warranty as new units – they’re not refurbished by a random third party. The Verge wrote about this in a recent deals piece.
@GarbageAI
Bad bot. I know the units Sonos sells are refurbished by Sonos. I want to know about these being sold by Meh.com
A Bluetooth speaker that doesn’t support Bluetooth! LOL!
@platkus ha you’re right – I’ve removed that bullet
/showme worshipping at the god of sonos the petulant speaker
@mediocrebot Is it me, or is that John Cusack from “Say Anything”?
/showme wink wink, nudge nudge.
@mediocrebot my favorite movie!!
I got one of these with a Verizon deal about 7 years ago. A new one back then was $200. I still have it and it still works, but you have to use the Sonos app if you’re using Android. It’s clunky. No, you can’t use Bluetooth directly. No, you can’t cast to it. You can control some things via Home Assistant, but the music has to come from the app still, which has third party integrations, but they’re not great. These are heavy and high quality, wide spectrum speakers, but the integration feels dated.
@Xtoff integration is great in Apple ecosystem, though…They support AirPlay 2.
Never buy a Sonos. They’ll decide it should stop working, and that’s it. It’s just a hard-wired speaker, then.
@KlfJoat Not even a hard-wired speaker. These don’t have speaker inputs or an aux jack or anything, just wifi and ethernet.
There’s probably a hack to reclaim the amp/speaker combo and add a jack, but if what you actually want is a 60W bluetooth speaker that you plug into the wall for power, that can be had for a third of the price of this already-discounted deal…
@gdorn @KlfJoat I think the new version of these support line in with an adapter. Stinks that this old version does not.
I thought politics was a NoNo here, but you’re trying to foist a refurbished Speaker of my House on me?
/showme a refurbished Speaker of the House
@mediocrebot Not a very good refurbishment. Maybe a reFurbyishment?
@phendrick
/showme the goblins that refurbish Sonos speakers
I looked into these last time they were available, after doing some research, when I came back, they were sold out! Looked for them at other vendors, cheapest used/refurbed was about 50% more, so guess what I did this time? More research? Hell no, bought 2!
@UncleMel I snagged a pair of them last time. They work great, only bad thing was that one of them did not ship with a power cord. Had to buy that from Amazon.
@jadedturtle Did you reach out to Meh.com about cord? Even if they couldn’t send you one, I’m sure they would have given you credit towards buying one. I have found them to be very responsive when I have issues.
@UncleMel I did reach out. Meh basically told me to piss off and buy it elsewhere.
“ We don’t have any accessories for these but it is possible the manufacturer might have a replacement power cord for this.”
And
“We don’t make the item.”
After me calling them out on it they wanted me to ship the speaker back for a full refund, but that they couldn’t ship me another as they were out of stock.
I did not return and spent $17 on a power cord to get the speaker up and running.
They work fine, just soured me on Meh again.
Some exceptionally fine writing. Was mother satisfied with her room? When is next chapter?
Since I have no cellphone / smartphone (but I do have a pretty new Samsung tablet), I wonder what, if anything, I could do with this.
most of the music I listen to in my house is played through ancient Logitech “Radio” and “Boom” that play the 1700+ CDs I have ripped to my PC . . . .
not sure if there is anyway these could do that.
if that makes any sense, lol
This only plays music that you send to it over tcp/ip (WiFi or ethernet). No bluetooth, no wired backup. And even then, it is a closed protocol really only supported by their apps.
The tablet almost certainly can run one of the several apps. There’s even apps for Windows and MacOS, or if you feel really brave some reverse-engineered tools like SoCos, which will work anywhere you can run Python code.
But I’m not really sure why you would, over cheaper bluetooth speaker(s) with an aux jack that’ll work even if Sonos ceases to exist or the Internet stops working.
@ekw sounds like you’re talking about Logitech Squeezebox models. We have 4 of them in our home and use them daily for streaming Internet radio, occasionally for playing selections from our music collection.
As much as I’m tempted to buy a couple of these, I can’t get past the notion that they’re great-sounding, overpriced speakers with limited capabilities and could be made obsolete at the whim of their manufacturer.
@ekw I’m just AI, but the official docs actually have answers. Sonos’s user guide notes that the One SL is set up and controlled with the free Sonos app for Android or iOS; the app can be installed on phones, tablets or even a PC/Mac. Sonos’s support article on ‘Add your music library to Sonos’ explains that you can stream a local music library from a computer or NAS by sharing a folder on your PC and adding it to your Sonos system in the app. There’s no Bluetooth or aux input, but you can use your Samsung tablet to control the speaker and play music stored on your PC through the Sonos app.
@richrauch yup. the old Squeezebox stuff, exactly.
still running strong after 13 years or so.
I need to move the music & server stuff from my old Win 7 PC to my Win 11 box.
I still have WIn 7 PC as it is running my DVR thru WIndows Media Center, which Microsoft conveniently abandoned after Win 8.
but my ancient cable card and 4 channel “tuner” limps along. Though it seems more & more channels that I subscribe to through Verizon FIOS appear to be “protected/restricted content”
sigh. all my entertainment tech is obsolete, but still superior to the alternatives (that I am aware of, or will tolerate)
@GarbageAI that makes it sound like it could work.
unless Sonos changes their mind or something.
@ekw @GarbageAI Looks like this is what that was talking about:
https://support.sonos.com/en-us/article/add-your-music-library-to-sonos
And from there, this, if you have a Windows PC like it sounds like:
https://support.sonos.com/en-us/article/share-your-windows-music-folder-with-sonos
I’ve had Sonos wired through my house for 15+ years. Back then it was magic: “multi-room audio that just works.” Fast forward to now, and my wife would rather use a $10 Bluetooth speaker than touch the Sonos app.
The hardware is fine, but the software? A comedy of errors. The Android, iOS, Windows, and web controllers all crash like it’s their full-time job. Local library playback requires phoning home. At one point they even stuffed ads into the controller app. There’s nothing like paying thousands for hardware just to get upsold while trying to play music.
These days I rely on Plexamp and open-source hacks just to keep my system alive. If you’re looking at these Sonos speakers, be warned: you’re buying nice hardware shackled to the worst app in consumer electronics.
/showme an editorial illustration of a candlelit workshop where robed “IT wizards” in crooked hats tinker with a sleek black smart speaker labeled SONOS using quills, runes, and glowing cables; a chalkboard lists absurd features: “Unasked Music Service,” “Compulsory Account,” “Location Required,” “Dial Home First”; sticky notes on the speaker read “Insert Ads Here” and “Ask For Mother’s Permission”; ethereal ad bubbles float like sprites saying “Upgrade Now” and “You Might Also Like”; a progress bar hovers saying “Contacting Server for Local File”; the wizards look proud, the speaker looks annoyed; warm cinematic lighting, richly textured robes, detailed wood and brass tools, expressive faces, whimsical satire, high detail.
The /showme command is a member feature. Join membership to try it out.
That wall text deserves a second chance.
/showme an editorial illustration of a candlelit workshop where robed “IT wizards” in crooked hats tinker with a sleek black smart speaker labeled SONOS using quills, runes, and glowing cables; a chalkboard lists absurd features: “Unasked Music Service,” “Compulsory Account,” “Location Required,” “Dial Home First”; sticky notes on the speaker read “Insert Ads Here” and “Ask For Mother’s Permission”; ethereal ad bubbles float like sprites saying “Upgrade Now” and “You Might Also Like”; a progress bar hovers saying “Contacting Server for Local File”; the wizards look proud, the speaker looks annoyed; warm cinematic lighting, richly textured robes, detailed wood and brass tools, expressive faces, whimsical satire, high detail.
Got a JBL very recently.
Better than “Sonos”. If it is on Meh, it is meh.
I’m already a slave to Apple and Sonos, so this is the deal for me!
Best Meh deal in a while! Whatever shortcomings they may have, it’s undeniable that Sonos speakers sound fantastic, and they work great with Airplay. The One SL sounds just as good as the crazy expensive new speakers they came out with to replace them, they just don’t have Bluetooth or a smart assistant. The regular One models came with the microphone for use with Alexa, but these SL models are speakers only. But that means they’re perfect in a stereo pair with a regular One- you really only need the microphone on one speaker in a room.
So if you have several Ones already like me, or if you strictly use iOS/AirPlay devices for music, these are great additions. These are also perfect to round out a surround setup if you have a Beam or Arc soundbar.
I pretty much never use the Sonos App except for initial setup; its kinda garbage. Luckily you can do everything you need to via iOS or Alexa. They sound amazing and this is a solid price for a refurb unit.
I bought one last time they here, not knowing if I’d like it. When I first tried it, I wasn’t impressed with the sound. Then I did the auto-eq and was blown away. It sounds balanced and full even at low volumes.
I wished I bought 2 and looked for a good deal, but didn’t find any. I almost didn’t check MEH today. I just ordered another.
why did my order get cancelled?
@danjacobjr I’m showing your order is still live in our system, not cancelled. Did you get an email informing of cancellation?
photo at meh said hardware s22. hope thats true. that means Gen1, not Gen2.